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My creatine gains were temporary (and I think clinical studies show that you lose about 10% of your strength when you stop using it) 2 1/2 years ago when I used it for a while.
I supplemented a protein with an no2 in it (can't remember the product) it is interesting the effect you get from it. In my opinion it is (like creatine) mostly water retention. Being vasilodators (increasing bloodflow etc to the muscles) that is their main function. Yes I did retain a "pump" long after a workout... but (now that I look back on it) I think I probably looked pretty silly because of all the water I was very "soft" looking.
My two cents.
My training has been kicking ass lately. All I supplement with is protein, calcium before and during workouts (1000 mg both times) glutamine to reduce catabolism (of muscle proteins) and a thermo (gurauna good ole caffeine!) and a multi.
I think if you just work hard you will see the major gains. I think people just have to realize that you have to ease into the heavy lifting (where you gain size/bulk). Don't just try to lift heavy for the sake of getting big (esp if you are unexperienced).
My results in the since November when I start lifting again:
Starting wieght: 290 lbs
Present: 255 lbs
No strength loss... still gaining with all the wieght loss!
Hard work. Thats the most important thing.
Sorry for the long post... hope some of it is useful at least.
Cheers!
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