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I'm still wondering how this turned from talking about government as a whole -> gun rights -> abortion.
As I stated above, it just takes the mere mention of a hot topic to take the focus off what is truly wanting to be discussed. No wonder things don't get done in Wash. and state capitols and larger cities. This is a great example of why.
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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"
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