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Trisk · 02-11-2006, 04:47 PM

I think it was quite obvious what you meant, Marvelous Mary.
Unlike Maximumveritas, I didn't equate your post to mean ignorance, but just bitterness.
Some people will hate others over things like affirmative action and other benefits to minorities. You're right.
But keep in mind that the reasons those things are there is becuase at one point, these groups were seriously UNDERpriveledged, and someone decided the best way to change that would be to make laws that sped up integration. The need for laws on those things wanes, though, as people grow accustomed to diversity in schools and other places.
The idea that minorities get all the benefits comes into question when, these days, even many African Americans want Affirmative Action gone. It takes away legitamacy when they're applying for jobs later in life, and makes them discount their own achievements. (Anotherwards, let's say 'Joe' went to Harvard, as a black person. He will always wonder whether he only got in because of his skin color, not because he was quite up to par with the other applicants. Furthermore, if he were up to par with the other students of Harvard, once in the working world, his job application might be credited to mean less next to a white person's with the same education....just because of the awareness of preferential treatment.)

Anyways, if you hate groups of minorities due to "preferential treatment", I would just like to point out that the amount of people who actually benefit from these things isn't that high. Anyone who gets into Harvard or any other good school probably has SOME brain on their shoulders, no matter what race they are. Sure, most scholarships are aimed at minority groups these days too, but honestly, it's not foolishness to think they might need it more than other groups of people. African Americans and Hispanic people continue to be among the poorest groups overall in the US. The reasons for this are an entirely different story, and I don't want ot get into an argument about that, but look at it this way: Not only do scholarships enable a group that people like you consider leeches on society/tax dollars to get an education and become self-reliant, contributing members, but it gives them the inspiration and hope to make something out of their lives. Sometimes, people just don't try because they feel like it's useless. These "preferential treatments" change that.
Regardless, most African Americans don't get the benefits of a scholarship or entrance into top schools. I mean, there are quite a few minorities in the US, and only so many scholarships. And even if they do [get too many benefits for your liking], hate the system. Not the African Americans. If you hate people for having slight advantages in some way, I think you really just need to grow up and stop being jealous and bitter.

02-11-2006, 04:47 PM	#27 (permalink)
Trisk Insane	I think it was quite obvious what you meant, Marvelous Mary. Unlike Maximumveritas, I didn't equate your post to mean ignorance, but just bitterness. Some people will hate others over things like affirmative action and other benefits to minorities. You're right. But keep in mind that the reasons those things are there is becuase at one point, these groups were seriously UNDERpriveledged, and someone decided the best way to change that would be to make laws that sped up integration. The need for laws on those things wanes, though, as people grow accustomed to diversity in schools and other places. The idea that minorities get all the benefits comes into question when, these days, even many African Americans want Affirmative Action gone. It takes away legitamacy when they're applying for jobs later in life, and makes them discount their own achievements. (Anotherwards, let's say 'Joe' went to Harvard, as a black person. He will always wonder whether he only got in because of his skin color, not because he was quite up to par with the other applicants. Furthermore, if he were up to par with the other students of Harvard, once in the working world, his job application might be credited to mean less next to a white person's with the same education....just because of the awareness of preferential treatment.) Anyways, if you hate groups of minorities due to "preferential treatment", I would just like to point out that the amount of people who actually benefit from these things isn't that high. Anyone who gets into Harvard or any other good school probably has SOME brain on their shoulders, no matter what race they are. Sure, most scholarships are aimed at minority groups these days too, but honestly, it's not foolishness to think they might need it more than other groups of people. African Americans and Hispanic people continue to be among the poorest groups overall in the US. The reasons for this are an entirely different story, and I don't want ot get into an argument about that, but look at it this way: Not only do scholarships enable a group that people like you consider leeches on society/tax dollars to get an education and become self-reliant, contributing members, but it gives them the inspiration and hope to make something out of their lives. Sometimes, people just don't try because they feel like it's useless. These "preferential treatments" change that. Regardless, most African Americans don't get the benefits of a scholarship or entrance into top schools. I mean, there are quite a few minorities in the US, and only so many scholarships. And even if they do [get too many benefits for your liking], hate the system. Not the African Americans. If you hate people for having slight advantages in some way, I think you really just need to grow up and stop being jealous and bitter.