shakran

Did it make it to the supreme court?

You read it wrong. And the people protesting at the funerals don't have a problem with the dead guy's family. They have a problem with the GOVERNMENT (the body they're petitioning for a redress of their grievances) having forced the guy to go to Iraq and get killed. I can see why they're doing it. They figure if the government won't allow pictures of the coffins out, you have to draw attention to the funerals somehow.



BS argument. Our forefathers didn't have the intention of allowing TV and radio broadcasts because they couldn't conceive of such a thing. They didn't intend to allow people to drive cars, but we can do that too. Just because the forefathers could not possibly predict all possible future actions does not mean those actions are forbidden.

Show me the article or amendment that gives people the RIGHT to keep other people off of public property if its near a funeral. No rights have been trampled here.

1) That phrase is from the Declaration of Independence and is not part of American law.

2) You just shot yourself in the foot. The protestors are pursuing happiness by protesting at the funeral.

Why? What legal basis do you have for declaring that? What if the families said protesting in front of the capitol building was causing them to suffer because they feel it's not supportive of the troops? Should we ban that too? We have rights in this country, and the nice thing about our constitution is that we get to exercise those rights even if it pisses someone off. Your arguments would have stopped the civil rights movement (hey the blacks are upsetting the whites, make 'em stop, they're trampling on rights), the women's movement (the men are suffering because the women are getting jobs as a result of their protests. Make 'em stop, they can't make anyone suffer), and in fact could be used to squash protest of ANY sort that those currently in power decide they don't like.

Not suffering during a period of grief is also NOT a constitutionally protected right. But freedom of speech, expression, and assembly ARE constitutionally protected rights.



Domestic tranquility refers to the power of the federal government to stop states from warring with each other.

how can we be assured peace when the damn gays are running around holding pride parades and exposing our young'ns to that filth?

How can we be assured peace if the blacks insist on holding million man marches in the nation's capitol? Hell it took me an hour to get to work that day! Ban that crap!

How can we be assured peace if drivers in New York keep honking their damn horns? Ban horns too!

Come to think of it, how can we be assured peace if anyone says anything that someone might not like? Maybe we should just outlaw speech in general.

Gets pretty ridiculous and anti-american when we carry your arguments out to other situations doesn't it? And if we subscribed to your beliefs, the blacks would still be segregated, the gays would still have to hide in the closet for fear of having their entire lives ruined, and no one could say anything if it upset anyone else. I for one am not interested in living in an Orwellian country.




Yes, it absolutely does. The people at the funeral have the right to protest what the protestors are doing. I will not argue that it would not be a good thing if the protestors decided on their own to cool it with the funerial protests, but then it'd also be nice if the kid down the street wouldn't thunk his car stereo at 1am, and it'd be nice if the local TV station didn't air Teletubbies, and it'd be nice if the guy from our competing station hadn't called me a jerk today for not letting him take my spot at the press conference. But to legislate all that just because we are worried about offending people is anti-American. There is no constitutional right not to be offended.

Great! The protestors are the injured party too because their country started an immoral, illegal war without their consent. They, like many, are ashamed to be part of this country right now because its government is behaving in a way that is distinctly against the supposed values of our country.
Come to think of it, NO one would protest if they did not feel they were injured in some way. Who do you think is going to organize a protest because they think things are going great?



Tell that to the protestors who would no longer be free to protest.

Where did you come up with this argument? The protestors aren't killing anyone. What are you talking about?

Yeah, maybe. But if you were on a public sidewalk and you got cited for that you could sue the holy shit out of the police department that cited you, because stopping you from doing that is not legal.
Perhaps, but we cannot legislate morality. Otherwise we must make gays, abortion, and premarital sex illegal. You willing to go that far?

That's just silly. saying "I wish you were dead" is not the same thing as "you're going to die" and it's certainly not saying "dude I have an in with god and he's gonna kill you."

You are wrong.