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Originally Posted by Aladdin Sane
The "root causes" argument has been floated in this thread as well: "They become terrorists because they are poor." This is armchair Marxism at its finest. As others have pointed out, many of the terrorists come from the middle and upper classes. The "Daddy was a thief, Momma was a whore" excuse didn't work for the accused at Nuremberg and it surely won't work for the Islamofascists today.
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damn, it's such a shame you would pull that from my posts (ustwo didn't leave any substance underpinning his assertion of that factoid, so you would just be banking on pure assertion if using his words to supports yours).
It's such a brutal mishandling of that factoid.
The point is, and why I was engaging roachboy in that regard, was to try and wrap his (and abaya's) statements around this factoid. That the middle class is and has been rapidly disolving and that at the forces of western capital blipping around the globe; that people who have things and then lose things--be it power or property--are the ones who feel the loss so acutely. This is just a taste of why it makes no sense, no sense whatsoever, to use the factoid that terrorist actors come predominantly from what we might understand as the middle class as a defense to the claim that they act in response to their material conditions.
To be clear: stating that middle class terrorists exist does not undermine the claim that terrorism and violent ideology has a breeding ground among the impoverished and marginalized
no, rather it is part of the evidence
making that claim and sitting back smugly resting on it without any knowledge of the context such a fact would emerge within is also evidence of someone who doesn't seem to know what the hell he or she is talking about...and then having to insult no less than three (3) people who derive their theoretical underpinnings from a scholar you have no idea how to understand...so you resort to calling us something we are not. 'armchair' scholars. When in fact all three of us, abaya (anthropologist), roachboy (sociologist), and myself (socio-legal ethnographer) actually go out and about in the world and engage with it in an attempt to understand the why's and how's. It's a sad shame, to me, that you wouldn't come to the table with such a agroup and let our experiences and knowledge inform your prattling.