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You don't see any problems with allowing armed individuals into banks, hospitals, department stores, schools, etc?
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In a word, no!
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No possibility that a momentary lapse in judgement might hurt or injure someone accidentally?
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anything is possible, but proper responsibility and common sense will make it the minimum so you should be safe. you stand a greater chance of being hit by a car.
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Should we arm all of our middle school and high school students because another one of them might go off the deep end?
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Don't I have the right not to have to worry that I might accidentally jostle someone in an elevator and have their weapon discharge because they neglected to put the safety on?
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do you jostle people in elevators like linebackers jostle quarterbacks? again, you have a more likely chance of being hit by a vehicle.
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I think if you think through what you're advocating, you might see that no one's rights are absolute.
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the right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness sound vaguely familiar to me.....
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And in with that guess, you are wrong. Pretty much every state requires employers to provide a "safe place to work", including protection from fellow employees and outsiders.
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you left out a keyword in that argument....'reasonably' safe place to work. cameras, unarmed security at the doors, and fire exits are generally all that is required.
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Basically what you're saying is that your right to be armed as an employee trumps my duty as employer to protect you and other employees from harm through accidental or purposeful actions.
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No, what i'm saying is that my right to defend my life and your duty to provide a 'reasonably' safe work place do not mean the same thing.
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The post office works under slightly different rules because it is a semi-public entity, but if this had happened at UPS or really any other private firm, there would be significant amounts paid as damages to the survivors and the families of the deceased through a variety of insurance policies (life, workers comp, general liability, employment practices liability). Employers can and have been held liable by the estates of people killed during violent events.
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please cite some examples because, to date, I've not heard of any company having to pay for the death of an employee via liability claims. insurance and comp benefits are not in the same category.
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Just to clarify my position, I don't have any problem at all with responsible adults owning guns. However, I do not want to live in a society where everyone is armed, nor do I want to raise my children to live in fear of the remote possibility that they might be victims of violence.
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you've been brainwashed with this idea that guns make people violent. that is completely wrong. people are violent already and those that are violent will use whatever is handy at the time. A gun in responsible hands can be the difference between life and death at the hands of that violent person. If you are not teaching your children that there is a remote possibility that they might be a victim of violence, then you are failing as a parent in that area. all one needs to do is read the paper and listen to the news to know that there will ALWAYS be the possibility of being a victim of violence.