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Originally Posted by willravel
If you're going to make a claim like this then you have to make the semantic argument about the word 'consent'. Does a horse have the cognative ability to approve of any actions? Pardon the following as it is graphic, but necessary. If a man is raped, it is entirely possible that he will gain an erection, but at the same time will have not consented. Some women acheive sexual climax while being raped, but that does not mean that there was consention. Horses are strong and large, but there is no way you can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that the animal consented just because the depraved act happened. Do we know the specific circumstances of the occourances? No. Do we know if the horse was drugged or bound in any way? No.
I need to go read the bible or something. This is too gross.
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Can it be safe to say a dog who humps your leg is giving 'consent'?
I don't know about men who get hard ons or women who have orgasms while being raped. I can tell you I wouldn't have one, and based on what its like to get women to orgasm I find that very far fetched as well. I on the other hand have worked around horses quite a bit, I used to be a championship rider back in my youth, and I'll tell you if a horse doesn't want to walk 2 feet, you are not going to force it. Likewise you are not going to force it in any way to fuck you unless it so desires at some level. Its sick, but no more sick than what some consenting adults do.
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Originally Posted by pigglet
ummm...if I find an incredibly gorgeous woman, who is also mentally challenged and has limited capacity to make her own decisions and says "yes" to any question I ask her...am I free to ask her "can I have sex you?" and pending the "yes" hop on break it down? I would compare that level of consent to the type of consent that a horse can provide in this circumstance.
how about child molestation? a child can give consent, but does it mean anything in this sense?
and me, i'd feel pretty bad about having sex with a mentally challenged girl, who technically consented. i think i might even feel like i'd raped her.
I really just can't see equating horsefucking, in any sense, with fucking a person of the same sex, or multiple people at once...
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The difference between this and your examples are the fact that yours involve humans. Animals are under different laws. If you want to kill your pets you can, if done in a 'humane' way. Live stock is slaughtered and eaten and we wear their skin. As long as the animal wasn't hurt, what harm was done to it? Does it feel violated and unclean in the animal kingdom? Does it no longer enjoy sex with other horses due to the trauma? Animals are not retarded people, nor do we treat them as such in any case but apparently this.
This is an interesting subject to play devils advocate on as it shows even the most tolerant of people become intolerant once they find their 'ick' factor.