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Old 02-02-2006, 01:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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SOTU

Sorry, i thought for certain that someone would post an SOTU thread and i haven't found it yet...


Soo, any thoughts?
my personal:

1. Bush calls for the tax cuts to stay permanent..right after talking about how taxes will be raised and how it will be unexpected to the people...Now...consider. His spending policies combined with his lowering of taxes...can we say, "Gee...either someoen has to become responsible about spending money..or else someone else (US) will be paying out the arse for them"
I just don't see how anyone can imagine the cuts will become permanent when we are simply driving the gov't so far into the red. I just don't see it. Or, is he talking about his tax cuts for the rich..

I just don't get it

2. did anyone else feel it a bit hypocritical for this president and this administration to tell the american people that we are addicted to foreign oil......AND on the day or day after exxon posted its largest profits EVER

3. 9/11...9/11....9/11 terrorists...terrorists...terrorists...and that was just in one sentence ...sorry, intermission and piss break, didn't hear much about that

4. how many jobs created? on the eve of ford, gm, etc laying off thousands...

5. bush seems totally intent on "renewable/alternative energy resources" for hte past few SOTU's, yet his new budget cuts funding in those areas as well.....

6. line item veto...how long have presidents been wanting this..seriously? It actually sounds like a great idea to me, but i'm curious as to why it's never been passed..

7. ban on stem cell research and human/animal cloning....pushing for abortion restrictions, oh yea, btw, the abstinence teaching has really reduced teenage pregancy. Don't teach sex, teach abstinence bc teenagers respond to you saying, "Don't do this"...

Seriously, i'm upset at the continuing ban on stem cell research. far too many people suffer from alzheimers and i hope we, as a country, wake up one day to this research.

"A hopeful society has institutions of science and medicine that do not cut ethical corners, and that recognize the matchless value of every life. Tonight I ask you to pass legislation to prohibit the most egregious abuses of medical research: human cloning in all its forms, creating or implanting embryos for experiments, creating human-animal hybrids, and buying, selling, or patenting human embryos. Human life is a gift from our Creator -- and that gift should never be discarded, devalued or put up for sale"

human-animal hybrids....patenting human embryos... as i said to ustwo earlier...Dude..what are you smokin'...

"Yet many Americans, especially parents, still have deep concerns about the direction of our culture, and the health of our most basic institutions. They're concerned about unethical conduct by public officials, and discouraged by activist courts that try to redefine marriage. "

do parents really worry about the redefinition of marriage, or do they worry that they or their children don't have health insurance? I didn't know people honestly worried about judges 'legislating from the bench' and that parents worried especially more than most..

"These gains are evidence of a quiet transformation -- a revolution of conscience, in which a rising generation is finding that a life of personal responsibility is a life of fulfillment. Government has played a role. Wise policies, such as welfare reform and drug education and support for abstinence and adoption have made a difference in the character of our country. And everyone here tonight, Democrat and Republican, has a right to be proud of this record. "

....is he really saying we are more 'moral' than before adn that his admin has played a role in that?

"We must also confront the larger challenge of mandatory spending, or entitlements. This year, the first of about 78 million baby boomers turn 60, including two of my Dad's favorite people -- me and President Clinton. (Laughter.) This milestone is more than a personal crisis -- (laughter) -- it is a national challenge. The retirement of the baby boom generation will put unprecedented strains on the federal government. By 2030, spending for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid alone will be almost 60 percent of the entire federal budget. And that will present future Congresses with impossible choices -- staggering tax increases, immense deficits, or deep cuts in every category of spending.

Congress did not act last year on my proposal to save Social Security -- (applause) -- yet the rising cost of entitlements is a problem that is not going away. (Applause.) And every year we fail to act, the situation gets worse."

now..seriously. he's calling for deep cuts in every category of spending...i can understand this..but what does he do? again, pretty much the exact opposite. Also note the "entitlements" nomenclature, such negative connotations. Nevermind that million pay into social security every year and that it is simply used for anything except social security...

"Abroad, our nation is committed to an historic, long-term goal -- we seek the end of tyranny in our world. Some dismiss that goal as misguided idealism. In reality, the future security of America depends on it. On September the 11th, 2001, we found that problems originating in a failed and oppressive state 7,000 miles away could bring murder and destruction to our country. "

IIRC...a failed and oppressive state did not cause 20+ individuals to board planes and crash them into areas in the US. I don't think you could blame that on a state, but it makes for good rhetoric, i guess.. never let facts get in the way of a good soundbite.

i really think this is about all i can say w/out my head truly exploding

Thank you, and may god bless america
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