Originally Posted by roachboy

my my, what an arrogant response, ace.

you can't wave your hand in the general direction of "the history of economics"and expect more than laughter.....you arent saying anything. if you want to talk about the history of the actually existing state across the 20th century, the varying relations that you see between the state and economy, the various ideologies of the state, of economic relations, etc., or the history of economic ideologies---and who knows, maybe even the hstory of the effects of these various ideologies---then seriously do it--at least in that case there'd be something solid to discuss (and real problems for your position)--but this vague waving in the general direction of some unspecified body of infotainment means nothing.

more general vent:
what is it about conservatism that seems to short circuit any discussion about assumptions? of all the features of this general system that frustrate, this is the most annoying and the most systematic. is part of the belief structure a rejection of basic questions about the belief structure?
if that's the case, then all propositions are non-falsifiable.
which makes all propostions worthless.
it also means that there is no real hope of debate at this level, and so no real reason to even start expecting conversation across political positions.
so there is no point in this or any post that raises questions: the preferred mode seems to be mutual affirmation:
post a: "i think nonfalsifiable propositions a, b, c...."
post b: "o i do too..."
post c: "cool."
post d: "then we agree"
post e: "yes"

let me know if this is the case and i can spare myself alot of time bothering with conversations like this one.