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Originally Posted by alansmithee
If you believe this, you are crazy (or a racist). Just because that some people succeed, doesn't mean that there's no racism. The whole economic system in America was fuelled by racism. And the roots remain to this day. The examples of "reverse racism" you mentioned are there to help deal with the economic inequalities between whites and blacks. It's because these things are NEEDED to even attempt to give equal footing. The reason there doesn't need to be a "NAAWP" (and actually its' the United Negro College Fund which gives scholarships, but why let facts get in the way of a little racism, hasn't stopped anyone before) is because whites start ahead of blacks 9 times out of 10. You don't need a head start when you're already starting ahead in the race. It's not racism, its attempting to rectify wrongs committed against blacks in the past, and today. It's true, black people can be whatever they want, but it's about twice as hard for them as it is for white people. And comparing the plight of blacks to any other ethnicity in America is wrong. You fail to understand the true effects of slavery. The biggest effect of slavery wasn't the forced labor, it was the total cultural destruction and the subsequent brainwashing. Essentially, the slave trade created a race of people in America with no cultural roots, and who were taught that ignorance and poverty was there lot. There hav been some efforts to reconnect with the past, but they are doomed to fail. Blacks have almost nothing in common with Africans at this point in time. The reason that other minorities will exceed blacks is that they have roots that are not embedded in ignorance, they have a culture outside of the racism they find in the US to draw upon. Blacks in America don't have that, and it's hard to fight 300+ years of ingrained ignorance. And thoughts like your's don't help-whites have already won, now they are just rubbing salt in the wounds. They don't want to deal with the lasting impacts of what they have done and continue to do, so now they have switched to attack mode. Again, they think because there's not lynchings or slavery that racism magically went away. Maybe if you would actually try to TALK with black people who aren't serving you food you would understand some of these things. But that would probably entail you taking off your white hood and sheet.
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NAACP Education Scholarship Home the NAACP also gives scholarships. I wasn't aware it was a quiz where I had to name ALL of the organizations that give black people scholarships. But "why let facts get in the way of a little reverse racism".
2. Ahead of what? I agree that slavery is, obviously, a bad thing, regardless oif the color of skin. White people have enslaved white people throughout history, too. Asians have owned asian slaves. Slavery is a long part of history, and is often times not racially motivated. Black Americans are free to go to Africa and live tribal lives just like white Americans are free to go back to England or Ireland or Germany or wherever they came from. If it's so damned tough to make it in our democratic, capitalist society. People come to the US from all over the world and do just fine. They escape poverty and ignorance, come to America and start businesses and go to school. But somehoe the black people who have lived here the whole time can't? I didn't realize there wasn't racism against Mexicans, Arabs, Chinese, Japanese. Do you remember ethnic distaste for the Irish back in the day? They still made it. There are plenty of people who hate all kinds of people for a lot of different reasons, and Americans of African decent are no better or worse off. They play the slave card and race card and get things for free, and that doesn't harbor a sense of equality with other people.
3. Bullshit! What cultural roots do most 7th or 8th generation Americans have? AMERICAN culture... that's what. And that's what black Americans have as well. It is really no different. I have Irish blood running through my veins. When my family came here from Ireland they were put into shitty jobs, treated like dirt and made to feel they were worthless humans with no value to society. Should I be angry about that? NO! My family worked hard, got through it and now things are easier. As for it being twice as difficult for blacks to become successful I have two thoughts. a) Many people feel it's the same for women... and sexism is just as bad. However, "nazi feminists" don't move their cause forward with the general populace either, and b) So they work twice as hard then, and THEN they can feel like they've made a difference. What does it really give a black man or woman in a matter of sense of completion to just be handed shit and told them it's because we treated them badly in the past. Wow, what a great win for equality. *boggle*
4. I've never owned a slave. I've never disliked or looked down on someone SIMPLY because of the color of their skin. I've never made racist or hateful remarks towards someone because of their race. Therefore, my tax dollars should not go to legislation that protects and helps black people above and beyond white people. I also have native american ancestry and I think it's bullshit that they get special treatment. It was HUNDREDS of years ago. That's even more ridiculous. I've never applied for anything as a native american, never tried to get special hunting/fishing permits because it goes against the grain of equality. People just need to get the fuck over the past and try to make a better future. It's one thing to learn a lesson, it's another to dwell on the negative.
At any rate, your particular flavor of leftist beliefs are exactly why black people aren't equal still, you feed into that bullshit "non-culture" and probably vote to give them more and more welfare and free help. That's great! I wish you could vote to only use your income tax for such purposes. Helping people get on their feet is great... handing them shit doens't help "establish" them in any reasonable way.
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Oh, by the way, while I'm happy to take arguments and comments against my political and social views, I think it's quite immature of you to imply that I am a member of a hateful organization. Let's try a different approach. A mexican legally moves to the states, gets a SSN and a legit job. Now HE has to help fund black ignorance and laziness, even though his ancestors never kept black slaves (well, not likely at least). It's not black people I don't like... it's specifically lazy, ignorant American black people. I don't care for lazy, ignorant American WHITE people either, and I think they are also given WAY to much in the form of welfare and free aid. The former group just has a bit of a heads up on them in the free stuff department. Oh wait, some demographics of American blacks have better options than some demographics of American whites? Wow, who'd have thought? At any rate, I lived outside of Detroit for 28 years, you don't think I knew black people and had black friends. Most of them went to college, most of them had professional parents. A few had blue collar parents that probably worked right alongside my own blue collar parents. It's ass-busting work that involves sweat and tears, long hours and shitty pay. But they did it, and their families are better for it. I think those people (white or black or hispanic or asian) that put in a hard days work to make their lives and the lives of their families better are fucking AWESOME. That's what America is all about. Why is it so hard for the left to see this?
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alansmithee... if it's so important for us as white folk to give and help the black folk to come to an equal footing, what have you PERSONALLY done? Have you tutored a poor black student? Given to the NAACP or UNCF? Have you supported black politicians? I'm not saying you've done nothing, I honestly don't know. But you seem to think it's very important, so I'm curious what contributions you have made, that were not forced by federal, state or local governments (taxes and affirmative action and such) that help better the standing of the Afircan American people.