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Old 01-21-2006, 10:22 AM   #64 (permalink)
alansmithee
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Originally Posted by xepherys
I also call bullshit on this. First of all, they have to want to be equal. I grew up just outside of Detroit. I can't even begin to tell you the number of times that I'd go somewhere to buy something, say at a restaraunt, and the black person behind the counter wouldn't help me, I'm sure because I was white. Or they would help me, but they were more concerned with chatting it up with their buddies, being obnoxious and not actually making my food. You know what... there are plenty of black people from bad parts of town that are successful. Some are doctors, lawyers, GOOD politicians, business owners, community leaders... how can they be all those things if there's such a pervasive attitude of racism these days? They couldn't... and there's NOT. In fact, there's more reverse racism than anything. You want to go to college but can't afford it? Aww, that's sad. Oh wait, your BLACK? Oh hell, come on then, get a degree. Those 200 white kids don't get that chance. Then there's there NAACP... they have college funds for black kids. Can I start an NAAWP and give away money to white people and only white people? Of COURSE not... wait, you're right, that IS racism... but it's against the majority. And the argument that "you can't be racist against the majority" is bullshit... racism is racism. Black people CAN be anything they want to be... many just CHOOSE to be thugs and punks and then blame it on white people. White trash people that choose to be undereducated, live in a messy trailer and live off of welfare don't generally say it's black people's faults. *boggle* Blaming all your problems on white people, and then taking advantage of social programs doesn't really move the equality effort forward. Getitng off of your ass and making something of yourself... THAT might be a good plan. When I moved down to Arizona last year, it was a real eye-opener. I'd always heard racist banter against mexicans, too. How lazy they are. How they're all illegals and taking our jobs. You know what? Most of the mexicans that I've encountered down here actually take pride in their work, even if they're working at McDonald's. That something I almost NEVER EVER saw with black people in Detroit. Mexicans certianly haven't "gained equality" in the US quite yet, but I bet they get it long before black people, and they've not been here in such numbers for nearly as long. It's kinda crazy, don't you think?
If you believe this, you are crazy (or a racist). Just because that some people succeed, doesn't mean that there's no racism. The whole economic system in America was fuelled by racism. And the roots remain to this day. The examples of "reverse racism" you mentioned are there to help deal with the economic inequalities between whites and blacks. It's because these things are NEEDED to even attempt to give equal footing. The reason there doesn't need to be a "NAAWP" (and actually its' the United Negro College Fund which gives scholarships, but why let facts get in the way of a little racism, hasn't stopped anyone before) is because whites start ahead of blacks 9 times out of 10. You don't need a head start when you're already starting ahead in the race. It's not racism, its attempting to rectify wrongs committed against blacks in the past, and today. It's true, black people can be whatever they want, but it's about twice as hard for them as it is for white people. And comparing the plight of blacks to any other ethnicity in America is wrong. You fail to understand the true effects of slavery. The biggest effect of slavery wasn't the forced labor, it was the total cultural destruction and the subsequent brainwashing. Essentially, the slave trade created a race of people in America with no cultural roots, and who were taught that ignorance and poverty was there lot. There hav been some efforts to reconnect with the past, but they are doomed to fail. Blacks have almost nothing in common with Africans at this point in time. The reason that other minorities will exceed blacks is that they have roots that are not embedded in ignorance, they have a culture outside of the racism they find in the US to draw upon. Blacks in America don't have that, and it's hard to fight 300+ years of ingrained ignorance. And thoughts like your's don't help-whites have already won, now they are just rubbing salt in the wounds. They don't want to deal with the lasting impacts of what they have done and continue to do, so now they have switched to attack mode. Again, they think because there's not lynchings or slavery that racism magically went away. Maybe if you would actually try to TALK with black people who aren't serving you food you would understand some of these things. But that would probably entail you taking off your white hood and sheet.
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