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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
let me guess, you're spinning this so that you can call every criminal with a gun, whether they technically own the gun or not, an irresponsible gun owner so you can lump a larger group together, right?
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Spin? 'Irresponsible gun owner without a permit', or rather one who obtained a firearm illegally, and has mal intent. Better?
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Originally Posted by xepherys
False! People cannot then legally carry a concealed weapon. This does not mean you are safe to assume that nobody is carrying a concealed weapon. Those that one might need to defend against will carry however they see fit regardless of the local laws.
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Not false. If it is illegal to have a concealed weapon, and someone is caught with a concealed weapon, that's it. The gun is gone, and they are in trouble. This applies to both the legal gun owners who will be slapped with a fine, and the illegal gun owners who will be tried and convicted. I realize that this law clearly won't ensure that everyone will get caught, far from it in fact, but as we've already argued: why would a legal gun owner need to conceal a weapon?
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Originally Posted by xepherys
Are you married? What if someone broke into your house tied you up at gunpoint and had his way with your wife? I bet you'd be glad you were a law abiding citizen that didn't own a gun. Because, of course, he'll be caught, and punished, and that justice will satisfy you and your wife. WTF world do you live in will?
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Well, in my case, it would be easier to rape me than my wife...gun or not. My wife is better at martial arts (which included disarmament of people using a gun) than I am. I live in reality where there is a difference between taking responsibility for your own safety, without needing to shoot and kill anyone and everyone who could pose a threat, and your world where everyone lives in the matrix, and you can shoot and kill everyone and be all important because of it. Take the blue pill, you're not the one.