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The_Dunedan · 01-19-2006, 02:41 PM

See, this is where people make mistakes. I have done with 99% of all gun debates because I have come to realize that hopolophobes are not going to be persuaded. They are so convinced that they are correct that even when their "facts" ( like the hyperinflated US gun-death bodycount ) are shown to be misrepresented, manipulated, or just plain LIES, they persist in using them. They are convinced that we ( gunowners ) ARE the rediculous propaganda charicatures they like to paint. Logic, statistics, example of history...none of this will sway 99% of these people, so I have largely given up trying.

Instead, I refer them to this:

If you leave me alone, I will leave you alone. If I am left unmolested, you will never know I am a gunowner, you will probably not even be aware of my existance. However, know this;
I believe that my Rights are mine simply by virtue of being Human. No Government, no agency, and certainly no hopolophobic do-gooder is going to take them away from me, short of killing me or locking me up. I will resist, by any means needed, warranted, or possible, such incursions. I do not care if 51%, 75%, or 99.9% of the world thinks I'm crazy or selfish or delusional or scared. MY Rights are not subject to THEIR review or modification. The practical upshot is this:

If you come for my guns, my body, or my property, I will shoot you. I will shoot anyone you send in your place. End of story. Period. Might get me killed, might not. One way or another, any survivors will damn sure think twice before trying it on the next guy, because even if I never even wing 'em, they'll find my corpse equipped with enough foot-pounds of muzzle energy to let 'em know I meant it. 7.62x51mm Ball has a way of doing that. My FAL isn't for deer hunting, or target-shooting, or even criminal-shooting. It has only one purpose. Shooting tyrants and their agents. Yes, strictly speaking, it is a single-purpose weapon, and that single purpose is killing people. Sometimes, in the defense of Life and Liberty, people need to be killed.

And here's the REALLY fun part...if even 1% of the 80,000,000+ -known- gunowners in this country thinks this way...you're going to have to kill or imprison upwards of 800,000 people. That's getting into the lower tier of Genocide. If the figure is 10% ( which is still low, IMO ) you're looking at 8,000,000 people dead or jailed. Beats Pol Pot, Saddam, and almost beats Hitler. Do you REALLY want to wade through that much blood?? We won't strike first, but we will strike back. Hard. Killing us will not be easy, or quick; you think IRAQ is trouble? Try getting a handle on an EIGHT MILLION-person insurgency. Are you people REALLY willing to go to lengths like that, just to satisfy your own prejudices?

Think about it.

01-19-2006, 02:41 PM	#118 (permalink)
The_Dunedan Junkie	See, this is where people make mistakes. I have done with 99% of all gun debates because I have come to realize that hopolophobes are not going to be persuaded. They are so convinced that they are correct that even when their "facts" ( like the hyperinflated US gun-death bodycount ) are shown to be misrepresented, manipulated, or just plain LIES, they persist in using them. They are convinced that we ( gunowners ) ARE the rediculous propaganda charicatures they like to paint. Logic, statistics, example of history...none of this will sway 99% of these people, so I have largely given up trying. Instead, I refer them to this: If you leave me alone, I will leave you alone. If I am left unmolested, you will never know I am a gunowner, you will probably not even be aware of my existance. However, know this; I believe that my Rights are mine simply by virtue of being Human. No Government, no agency, and certainly no hopolophobic do-gooder is going to take them away from me, short of killing me or locking me up. I will resist, by any means needed, warranted, or possible, such incursions. I do not care if 51%, 75%, or 99.9% of the world thinks I'm crazy or selfish or delusional or scared. MY Rights are not subject to THEIR review or modification. The practical upshot is this: If you come for my guns, my body, or my property, I will shoot you. I will shoot anyone you send in your place. End of story. Period. Might get me killed, might not. One way or another, any survivors will damn sure think twice before trying it on the next guy, because even if I never even wing 'em, they'll find my corpse equipped with enough foot-pounds of muzzle energy to let 'em know I meant it. 7.62x51mm Ball has a way of doing that. My FAL isn't for deer hunting, or target-shooting, or even criminal-shooting. It has only one purpose. Shooting tyrants and their agents. Yes, strictly speaking, it is a single-purpose weapon, and that single purpose is killing people. Sometimes, in the defense of Life and Liberty, people need to be killed. And here's the REALLY fun part...if even 1% of the 80,000,000+ -known- gunowners in this country thinks this way...you're going to have to kill or imprison upwards of 800,000 people. That's getting into the lower tier of Genocide. If the figure is 10% ( which is still low, IMO ) you're looking at 8,000,000 people dead or jailed. Beats Pol Pot, Saddam, and almost beats Hitler. Do you REALLY want to wade through that much blood?? We won't strike first, but we will strike back. Hard. Killing us will not be easy, or quick; you think IRAQ is trouble? Try getting a handle on an EIGHT MILLION-person insurgency. Are you people REALLY willing to go to lengths like that, just to satisfy your own prejudices? Think about it.