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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
which only disarms them and not the criminal.
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Not true. Even D.C. saw a decrease in illegal guns at first. The crime went up, but the amount of guns moving into the city is still less than before the ban.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
For any defensive weapon to be effective it has to be used offensively. That is not to say that all guns are offensive by nature just as swords, knives, clubs, or even tasers are offensive by nature. They are designed to stop a threat.
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Then we are in agreement that the term 'defensive weapon' is an oxymoron, or a contradiction in terms. S bulletproof vest is an excelent example of a defensive tool. A gun is an offensive weapon (which is a term that I can now admit is reduntant).
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yet you suggest people to not use guns, but use non weapon things like baseball bats for purposes they are not intended for.....to defend themselves?
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Yes.
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But it beats being completely defenseless. what you're suggesting is for us to surrender to the criminal element. passive resistance only works to those that have an image to maintain. what does a criminal care about their image?
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Ghandi didn't have an image to maintain, and neither did I. This is less about image, and more about peaceful philosophy being applicable to reality (the ultimate test of a philosophy).
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
why should I give the criminal less reason to fear? I want him to be so damn afraid that he decides not to criminalize me.
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Then dress up like a werwolf. Guns aren't just to scare, they are to harm. If you kill someone who is breaking into your house, you are guilty of murdere, whether it is in self defence or not. This is where fact fades and philosophy comes in. This is on par with my philosophy about the death penalty. Only God has the right to tkae life, and anyone else taking life is disrespectful to life. Of course, this is my philosophy, not yours. I'm just trying to explain where my logic/hilosophy is coming from.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
If you engage in offense, YOU are the antagonist. If I defend myself, i'm the protagonist.
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What if someone breaks in unarmed and you point the gun and they start to leave and you shoot them?
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
I gave you one up above.
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You misunderstand my question. When guns are deisnged, by gun designers, is their one and only concern to make the gun able to defend you from a criminal? Or do they also make it for military or police to kill people, or maybe to hunt. I suspect, judging by the availability of illegal arms, that the manufacturers don't care how their guns are used.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
and I see every criminal rushing to turn in their guns the first week. /sarcasm
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Well if they don't then they are breaking the law. You can't just not pass a lwa because people will break it. That's absurd.