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Originally Posted by willravel
The odds of deterring MUST be greater with obvious defences, instead of hidden offenses. That only makes sense. If the law abiding citizen doesn't want to put up bars and security doors, then let them take responsibility for thier safty in another way, such as trying to push gun control legislation.
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which only disarms them and not the criminal.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Are you willing, then, to say that the only true defensive function of a gun is that it is in fact offensive? If not, then I'll have to continue to be obtuse about it. If you admit it, I'll be acute and move on.
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For any defensive weapon to be effective it has to be used offensively. That is not to say that all guns are offensive by nature just as swords, knives, clubs, or even tasers are offensive by nature. They are designed to stop a threat.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Yes, many things can be used as weapons, but their primary function is not as a weapon. More meat clevers are used on meat than on people. Fertelizer is more often used for crops or flaming bags on porches. A baseball bat is more often used for baseball. Guns are intended to put holes in people or animals, to the end of harming or killing. It's function is waht sets it apart from the above items.
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yet you suggest people to not use guns, but use non weapon things like baseball bats for purposes they are not intended for.....to defend themselves?
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Originally Posted by willravel
Then we are stuck in a situation of escelation with the criminals. If neither the government nor the manufacturers can stop what's going, on then what cahnce do we have? We get a handgun, they get an automatic rifel. We get bulletproof vests, they get armor peircing rounds....etc. This is not a path to peace. This is not a path to a solutuion.
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But it beats being completely defenseless. what you're suggesting is for us to surrender to the criminal element. passive resistance only works to those that have an image to maintain. what does a criminal care about their image?
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Originally Posted by willravel
As we've stated, these weapons - knife bat, axe - are clearly less dangerous than guns. It's not a matter of having nothing to fear, but of having much less to fear.
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why should I give the criminal less reason to fear? I want him to be so damn afraid that he decides not to criminalize me.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Okay, time to argue semantics....
offence: is the action of attacking or engaging an opposing team or antagonist.
That's what you're doing. You're engaging a criminal with your gun. It's the very definition of offence.
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If you engage in offense, YOU are the antagonist. If I defend myself, i'm the protagonist.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Handguns are designed to protect you from a criminal? I'll need proof on this one.
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I gave you one up above.
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Originally Posted by willravel
They feel that no one in their city should have a gun legally, and voted as such.
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and I see every criminal rushing to turn in their guns the first week. /sarcasm