Originally Posted by CityOfAngels

I believe the better version comes with a Hard Drive, wireless controller, and 30 days of XBOX Live or something like that. Just ask if it's "The one with the hard drive and wireless controllers." If they say yes it's the good one; no then it's not.

My friend showed me his 360 about a week ago. I must say I am impressed, but not overly-impressed. Graphics are smoother, but there are framerate issues with some games like the new Quake. For a system that is so new and costs so much, I'd expect to be able to look around the level without visually noticing the framerate skips. Call Of Duty 2 was VERY impressive; but you still get the ventriloquist doll effect when you see people talking. Plus, it doesn't seem like it lets you throw grenades far enough. I didn't get a chance to see any original XBOX games be played on it though.

All in all, I would DEFINITELY NOT pay $800 for it, and I know I won't be paying the initial $420 price tag. I don't think buying the non-HDD one is worth it, so even though I'm cheap, I'm not buying that either. If the 360 comes down to the $250-$300 range, I'll probably pick it up. So i guess when everyone's getting their XBOX 720's, I'll be getting my 360.