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Old 01-17-2006, 07:06 PM   #144 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by sherpahigh
Fiscally, yes, they're closer to the american right, less government involvment. I see that as a good thing, a lot do not. Socially is where the Cons of the North vary a lot from thier conterparts in the US.
No, they are not as socially conservative as the cons in the us... but there are many in the party who are (Stockwell Day for example).

We won't see the Conservatives officially table legislation like killing abortion rights, etc. But I think it is very likely that they will back door this sort of legislation through private members bills. Harper can shrug and say, the government didn't table this, just like we promised, but they will vote the legislation in with their majority in a "free vote".

The thing is, if you were to ask many of the people voting for change they would say they don't want to see this happen.

I predict it will. I suppose time will tell.


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Since when is it the publics job to offset the entire cost of raising kids?
They aren't. But I suppose this is a difference we will just have to live with as it is a conservative position vs. a more left centre thing...


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Originally Posted by sherpahigh
Completely baffled with how many people in this country are willing to look the other way on these issues. Nevermind the scandals for a minute, how about the collasal waste that is the gun registry? This is our money they're pissing away. The attitude, "scandals aside, they've done a good job" doesn't hold water with me. It's like putting up with a chef that steals from the till because he makes a mean curry.
I don't disagree entirely. This is why I prefer minority governments.

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I can't agree with your conclusion that Martin's done everything in his power to clean up the party. If that were the case, Goodale would be gone.
I don't think it was Goodale who leaked the information, and I don't think anyone else does either. That said, he would have looked better if he'd shifted Goodale out of the cabinet.

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The conservatives cannot really have a true majority anytime soon even if they're vote into the majority this time around. The liberals still have a hold in the senate and the civil service that would prevent a true majority for quite some time.
The senate can only slow things, they can't really stop them. The civil service isn't going to do much to slow things down. Sure some of the higher ranking civil servants will get shuffled out but the main body of the civil service are not political.

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Originally Posted by sherpahigh
I for one will not be voting for the Conservatives just because I'd like a change, though I feel that it's a good enough reason all on its own. I tend to be a little bit off to the right fiscally while being pretty centrist on social issues and to me the conservatives are what most closely matches that. I don't agree with everything on their platform but I disagree with less of it than any if the other options so....
My main difference of opinion on them is that I feel they are going to be more Socially Conservative than they seem to appear at present (that and I don't agree with their being fiscally right of centre... but I can tolerate that).
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