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Old 01-14-2006, 06:15 PM   #183 (permalink)
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* Circumcision denudes: Depending on the amount of skit cut off, circumcision robs a male of as much as 80 percent or more of his penile skin. Depending on the foreskin's length, cutting it off makes the penis as much as 25 percent or more shorter. Careful anatomical investigations have shown that circumcision cuts off more than 3 feet of veins, arteries, and capillaries, 240 feet of nerves, and more than 20,000 nerve endings.[31]The foreskin's muscles, glands, mucous membrane, and epithelial tissue are destroyed, as well.

* Circumcision desensitizes: Circumcision desensitizes the penis radically. Foreskin amputation means severing the rich nerve network and all the nerve receptors in the foreskin itself Circumcision almost always damages or destroys the frenulum. The loss of the protective foreskin desensitizes the glans. Because the membrane covering the permanently externalized glans is now subjected to constant abrasion and irritation, it keratinizes, becoming dry and tough. The nerve endings in the glans, which in the intact penis are just beneath the surface of the mucous membrane, are now buried by successive layers of keratinization. The denuded glans takes on a dull, grayish, sclerotic appearance.

* Circumcision disables: The amputation of so much penile skin permanently immobilizes whatever skin remains, preventing it from gliding freely over the shaft and glans. This loss of mobility destroys the mechanism by which the glans is normally stimulated. When the circumcised penis becomes erect, the immobilized remaining skin is stretched, sometimes so tightly that not enough skin is left to cover the erect shaft. Hair-bearing skin from the groin and scrotum is often pulled onto the shaft, where hair is not normally found. The surgically externalized mucous membrane of the glans has no sebaceous glands. Without the protection and emollients of the foreskin, it dries out, making it susceptible to cracking and bleeding.

* Circumcision disfigures: Circumcision alters the appearance of the penis drastically. It permanently externalizes the glans, normally an internal organ. Circumcision leaves a large circumferential surgical scar on the penile shaft. Because circumcision usually necessitates tearing the foreskin from the glans, pieces of the glans may be torn off, too, leaving it pitted and scarred. Shreds of foreskin may adhere to the raw glans, forming tags and bridges of dangling, displaced skin.[32]

Depending on the amount of skin cut off and how the scar forms, the circumcised penis may be permanently twisted, or curve or bow during erection.[33] The contraction of the scar tissue may pull the shaft into the abdomen, in effect shortening the penis or burying it completely.[34]

* Circumcision disrupts circulation: Circumcision interrupts the normal circulation of blood throughout the penile skin system and glans. The blood flowing into major penile arteries is obstructed by the line of scar tissue at the point of incision, creating backflow instead of feeding the branches and capillary networks beyond the scar. Deprived of blood, the meatus may contract and scarify, obstructing the flow of urine.[35] This condition, known as meatal stenosis, often requires corrective surgery. Meatal stenosis is found almost exclusively among boys who have been circumcised.

Circumcision also severs the lymph vessels, interrupting the circulation of lymph and sometimes causing lymphedema, a painful, disfiguring condition in which the remaining skin of the penis swells with trapped lymph fluid.

* Circumcision harms the developing brain: Recent studies published in leading medical journals have reported that circumcision has longlasting detrimental effects on the developing brain,[36] adversely altering the brain's perception centers. Circumcised boys have a lower pain threshold than girls or intact boys.[37] Developmental neuropsychologist Dr. James Prescott suggests that circumcision can cause deeper and more disturbing levels of neurological damage, as well. [38, 39]

* Circumcision is unhygienic and unhealthy: One of the most common myths about circumcision is that it makes the penis cleaner and easier to take care of. This is not true. Eyes without eyelids would not be cleaner; neither would a penis without its foreskin. The artificially externalized glans and meatus of the circumcised penis are constantly exposed to abrasion and dirt, making the circumcised penis, in fact, more unclean. The loss of the protective foreskin leaves the urinary tract vulnerable to invasion by bacterial and viral pathogens.

The circumcision wound is larger than most people imagine. It is not just the circular point of union between the outer and inner layers of the remaining skin. Before a baby is circumcised, his foreskin must be torn from his glans, literally skinning it alive. This creates a large open area of raw, bleeding flesh, covered at best with a layer of undeveloped protomucosa. Germs can easily enter the damaged tissue and bloodstream through the raw glans and, even more easily, through the incision itself.

Even after the wound has healed, the externalized glans and meatus are still forced into constant unnatural contact with urine, feces, chemically treated diapers, and other contaminants.
First, I'm not convinced the source you quoted is very valid. It's a roughly 2.5 page report that lists 67 references. It sounds to me like a lot of pulling at strings to make a specific point. It's easy to move sentences out of context to have them say whatever you'd like. If you wrote a 2-3 page report for a class and had 67 references, you'd either get a 4.0 because your professor was a dumbass, or a gooseegg because you didn't actually do any STUDYING. And sorry, just having MD after his name doesn't make him qualified. There are a lot of practicing doctors who I would not visit as well. School != smart.

Now let's look at those points. First of all, they are all very definitive and absolute. Circumcision denudes (not sometimes, but apparently always). "The denuded glans takes on a dull, grayish, sclerotic appearance," again, not sometimes but always. I'm looking at my penis right this very second. It is noit "dull", "gray" or "sclerotic" in any sense. Sclerosis generally has to do with a hardening of tissue, which I've not known to occur in cut men at all. Also, keratin seems to have been throw around a lot here. Keratinous tissue is generally thought of as being hair and nails. Do I have a tusk for a penis? Hmmm, nope! Both arguments here and elsewhere in this thread have no real bearing in reality.

80% or more of your penile skin? Is that so? Oh yeah, because it loops back. No, still not really 80%. I'd imagine 50%... but it only covers 25% or less of the actual LENGTH of the penile shaft. Okay, maybe 33%. Certainly not 40%.

Again with the desensitization... I guess that whole 3-minute man is a bigger myth than we're led to believe. Us cut men must be STALLIONS in bed since we're so desensitized. I can go about... maybe 15-20 minutes if I really put some effort into it. Maybe 25-30 minutes the second time around. I could go for an hour if we took breaks to do other things. If I was more sensitive, I think my wife would be sad.

Question for the cut men here... has your penis EVER just cracked and bled? Don't be shy... I really, truly want to know. Send me a PM even... I'll list the number of responses here. WTF?

"Because circumcision usually necessitates tearing the foreskin from the glans, pieces of the glans may be torn off, too, leaving it pitted and scarred. Shreds of foreskin may adhere to the raw glans, forming tags and bridges of dangling, displaced skin." Are you KIDDING me? What kind of butcher doctors perform the surgery in these cases? Was this study done in a hosptial with a high malpractice occurance? If I had a pitted, cracked bleeding penis with skin tags and dangling bridges... I'd never get laid. I mean, are there pictures in any medical books or magazines or journals of this occurance? If it's noted, it must happen at least now and then. No, I don't buy it. It might happen as a freak thing in 0.001% of cases... maybe.

Also, uncut men can have "curved" penises. Curving of a penis can happen do to any number of things. This, again, may be the cause in SOME cases... but I doubt it's the norm.

Well, I'm kinda of tired of this argument for now. But again, I just don't see a good argument against it. Really I don't. Even when sources are quoted specifically, they are easy to refute. Come back when you have better evidence. Thanks!

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