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Old 01-10-2006, 01:47 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by filtherton
Results not typical?

So essentially, what you're saying is that the american dream has the same value as the promises of a slim fast commercial? And then you're holding this dream up as though it is some sort of beacon of hope for the world's downtrodden?

When i think of the american dream I see someone attempting to sell a promise to masses of people when they damn well know that that promise will essentially be meaningless to the vast majority of them. Then I see that same salesperson blaming the people he fooled when they don't succeed like he tricked them into thinking he would. I also see many of the people who would presume to spread the message of the american dream complain when masses of illegals sneak over the borders to try and cash in. I see this and i think, "Wow, that's kind've fucked up. Maybe everyone would be better served by a more honest approach to explaining what things are really like in america. Something like: 'Come to america, where some of your dreams might come true if you're lucky'"

Not everyone gets the same opportunity to succeed or fail in america. There are certain things make the opportunities available to people fundamentally unequal. Just like everywhere else in the universe. America acts like it invented opportunity when actually it was just the first country to co-opt it into a successful national marketing campaign.
an example of the American dream unequalness..

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A refugee from Georgia, in the former Soviet Union, he left with a wave of immigrants in 1973. Mr. Sapir lived in Israel, Germany and Louisville, Ky., before arriving in New York in 1976.

After three years as a cabdriver, he opened an electronics store at 200 Fifth Avenue near Madison Square Park where he often sold products to visiting Russian diplomats. His relationship with one customer, a Soviet oil minister, he said, enabled him to begin selling fertilizer, and eventually, oil contracts, in Europe.

In the early 1990's, Mr. Sapir decided to invest in New York real estate, buying a building downtown, on John Street, for $2.2 million and selling it a year later for nearly three times that. Since then, he has bought several other buildings in Manhattan.
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