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Old 01-07-2006, 07:16 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by pan6467
Alcohol is the deadliest only because it is legal. IMHO
Remember that little experiment in the '20s called "prohibition"? Alcohol is just as deadly when it's illegal. If there's a demand, there will be those working to supply it, legal or not.

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Marijuana would probably have just as many DUI's, traffic accidents, fights, murders etc. if it were legal, and if it were to achieve the same amount of use.
Either you have never smoked bud in your life or you had like, nuclear charged pot, because the above statement suggests you do not have any personal experience with the drug. I mean, has crime dramatically increased in the Netherlands since marijuana was legalised? The following is a quote from wikipedia (obviously not the best source but certainly good enough for a forum argument) -

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_po...he_Netherlands
Contrary to most countries' policies, the Dutch policy has yielded positive results in the war against drugs. The Netherlands spends more than €130 million annually on facilities for addicts, of which about fifty percent goes to drug addicts. The Netherlands has extensive demand reduction programs, reaching about ninety percent of the country's 25,000 to 28,000 hard drug users. The number of hard drug addicts has stabilized in the past few years and their average age has risen to 38 years. The number of drug-related deaths in the country remains the lowest in Europe.
In any case, the onus on you is to substantiate your claim. Marijuana is legal in the Netherlands, so get cracking on proving your argument.

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Opioids, Coke, Meth, regular Amphetamines, Benzos, etc. are all illegal for a reason. They destroy lives and are extremely addictive.
Alcohol and cigarettes destroy lives and are extremely addictive.


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But when you truly see the effects of heroin, Meth, Crack, and so on and know if these were legal the rates of abuse and addiction would be unsustainable in cost, you'd realize just 1 danger. Other dangers include people nodding off with lit cigs, babies born addicted, the health toll each of these drugs takes on the body, and so on.
This has hardly been proven. There's much more persuasive argument to the contrary. By legalising drugs the purity and overall safety could be ensured/increased, addicts could openly seek help with their addiction, street crime would decline, etc etc...

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1 reason alcoholism is so rampant is because it is legal.
Prohibition says otherwise.

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If other drugs were legal the addiction rates would probably be equal to it.
If I had a red cape I could probably jump tall buildings in a single bound. Do you have any sort of evidence to support what you're saying? What addiction rates are you talking about?

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I am for the legalization of marijuana but anything else would truly be economic suicide and addiction would hit epidemic proportions.
You seem to be under the impression that the drug trade is a very small economic force. It isn't. Imagine the tax revenue legalisation would bring in.

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I'm not trying to preach, I'm stating fact.
Your post is pretty much an exercise in speculation. I don't see a fact in sight.

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For some reason, drug use seems to be more prevelant in the US than elsewhere, maybe it is because they are illegal and it's a rebel type deal, or perhaps it is the society we have, or perhaps we can afford them moreso than other countries or it could just be that they are more available here even though they are illegal.
Funny that. A country with one of the strictest drug policies in the world has has an extemely high prevalence of drug use...hmm. Think about that.

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Who knows? I just know that with Coke, Heroin, Meth, and so on there is very little "social use" and far more addiction. Alcohol and weed seem to be able to be the only 2 that the user can sustain a moderate, social use of.
Well coke, heroin and meth are harder drugs, and rarely can one buy them in their pure form. Further, it's much more difficult to get help with the addiction because these drugs are ILLEGAL.
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