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Old 01-06-2006, 03:46 PM   #34 (permalink)
ziadel
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Originally Posted by BigBen
Energy equals one half mass times velocity squared;

Recite that equation 5 times before you go to bed at night.

What you want is a small bullet going very fucking fast. The 5.56 round does that, and does it well.

It wasn't designed to kill coyotes and gophers, it was designed to get the most energy on target using the laws of physics and the rule of "Spray and Pray" warfare:

Give your troops lots of lightweight bullets, and praise them mightily when they pull the trigger!

Having carried enough 5.56 and 7.62 rounds to qualify as a SME (subject matter expert) I can say that I prefer the 5.56... Of course you sniper benchrest guys will tear me apart on that one.

Yes, we outfit our good shots with some gucci kit.

I think that the carbine does its job extremely well, and the new age of combat (urban warfare) lends itself to choose the carbine as a better overall weapon.

When the time comes, I don't give a fuck, just make sure I am not walking into the situation with just my dick in my hand.


I'm going to play devils advocate here.
the came about by remington from the .222, and people did'nt use the .222 to hunt big game, it was a varmint cartridge. Now, in the urban setting, resupply is easier, it's easier to load up ammo in a humvee and drive down the road to whoever needs it, so that negates one of the 5.56's points right there. I feel that the loss of barrel length on the carbines significantly reduces the killing power of the 5.56, without enough barrel, its not gonna get up to speed, and at that bullet weight, the only thing it has going for it is its speed. now, without that killing power, and being in close quarters, that means Apu will still have enough life left in him to pull that pin on that grenade thats on his belt before he expires.

That's gonna cause some problems..

The REAL choice here is to goto a bullpup format, lots o barrel, short overall length, keep the 5.56, give it the barrel it needs to get the velocity to kill properly, and all problems will be solved.


/has yet to talk to someone who has been in combat and liked the 5.56
//got a 45 minute discussion from my boss about how he just kept on keeping on with the m14 in 'nam
///personaly doesnt not own any .223 rifles because I am not a huge fan of the AR itself
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