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Old 01-05-2006, 11:21 AM   #50 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by Yakk
I gave a huge list of per-capita amounts.

In terms of "which political unit gave the most", USA is not on top. The EU is.

In terms of per-capita or fraction of the economy, the USA isn't anywhere near the top of the developed world.

Austrailia, with 20 million people, gave over 1 billion USD. USA, with a population of 300 million people, gave under 2 billion USD.

I can't remember what the result for "per capita giving from the EU" was -- I ran the numbers a while ago.

The EU has under 500 million people. The USA has about 300 million people. The EU gave more than twice as much as the USA did, if I remember right.

The EU and the USA have roughly the same GNP.



67% more people.



What poll? I wasn't using a poll. I do not understand.

Why would you use a poll to determine the total amount of money a nation gave to something like tsunami releif? Aggregate numbers are availiable from various charitible institutions within each nation.



I was only attempting to measure direct tsunami relief.



How much money does the USA rely on from China through mass purchase of USA 30 year government bonds?

I am simply looking at one statement made by the original poster, and disagreeing with it.



Feel free to provide your own numbers. I'd love to see them.

I am simply disagreeing with the claim that the USA's tsunami releaf dwarfs other developed nations. This statement looked to me like a lie.

Lacking the ability to do serious research on the subject, I got most of my numerical information from the wikipedea. If you can find a better source, I'd be happy to hear about it. The wiki happens to agree with mainstream media source values for the USA, Austrailia, Canada and the UK (those being english-language nations for whom I could check the values) and Sweden/Norway (whose unusually high contributions where noted), and Qatar/UAE/Saudi Arabia, so I assumed the rest of the information was reasonably accurate.
And because the US gave less to an international disaster we're a bad greedy nation?????

We ship more money overseas and into causes than we probably give our own citizens. I have a feeling sad to say more money went to the Tsunami than to NO/and the Gulf area. Which to me is sad because a country must take care of it's own before they can even think of helping another.

I find it pathetic and very sad when other nations turn to us after they have bitched about us for help, then when we give it is not enough.

If people around the world haven't noticed, we in the US have no more to give. We are a nation deeply in debt, our wealth is being decimated and other countries are wanting more from us????? WTF?

I happily give money to others (and I can't truly afford it), but I give it to my neighbors in NO, the Gulf, Muscular Dystrophy, MS, Cancer Society and people on the streets.

Yes, we have to help other nations but we can only do so much, we have given for so long it is time other nations pick up the slack and start realizing that our giving has cost us dearly.

BTW, you point out how much other countries gave for the Tsunami..... how much did they give the US for our hurricanes and the tragedies in our nation? Not that we need other countries help, but there comes a time when we have to cut the cord and help our own people first.
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