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Originally Posted by Zeraph
Are you sure it's their fault? BWL has always been buggy, maybe its a "feature". Like random aggro or something.
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Very sure. Vael's random ability doesn't have to do with pulling hate. When there's a rogue who has 5k more damage than anyone else in the raid and everyone is screaming at him to vanish and he doesn't vanish and pulls hate over the next tank and then doesn't move so vael cleaves all the rogues and then flame-breaths the caster camp, there's nothing random or buggy about it.
Vael is a simple fight. For DPS: don't get hit by anything but fire novas and don't pull hate over tanks. For warriors, it's pull hate in the correct order. They're not hard jobs, but if you're not paying attention, it's easy to fail at either one of them and when you do, you wipe the raid, since Vael is probably the most unforgiving fight I can think of. Sure people make mistakes and you can't win every time, but when you can't get 40 people to pay attention for just three minutes over and over again, it gets really frustrating.
On another note, I think my presence has something to do with people sucking, since when I show up for vael, we have a wipefest (I'm a hunter, I don't ever pull hate on Vael, so I'm sure it's not actually *my* fault). Tonight, while I'm off watcing one of the greatest college football games ever, they one-shot him. GG me.