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host · 12-30-2005, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo

He can't shut me down, when I don't read them anymore. After a few dives into the twisted and often totally irrelevant links which makes up a host posting I gave up as have most of us on the right, though kudos to lebell for trying most recently. You can cheer on the inside all you like but there is no fight to cheer on. I will not debate someone who through either hubris or delusion thinks we have government agents posting on this forum or that Bush is involved in human sacrifice. If host is your champion you have already lost.

Ustwo....speaking of <a href="http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpost.php?p=1970113&postcount=318">"Foil of Ren-yolds"</a>, here is some of what is lauded in your "world" as "professional" political "commentary"...... Not only do I, and others with a lick of sense, have to put up with you posting the 'line" of shrill propagandists like John Hinderaker, we are overwhelmed by the press who you label as "liberal", legitimizing Hinderaker's venomous bull shit (His is one of three names displayed on Power Line's web page) as in this example; Time awarded this right wing POS that passes itself as a "main stream" conservative "blog", as Time's 2004 'Blog of the year"!

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http://powerlineblog.com/archives/012664.php
JOHN [Hinderaker]adds:...........Meanwhile, <h3>the Post's reporters are part of a lavishly funded and monolithic media effort to misreport the Iraq war for the purpose of bringing down the Bush administration...............</h3>

And.....Ustwo.....I'm the one who you connect with "Foil"? How dare you?
Here is some "truth" for you and John Hinderaker:

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...&notFound=true
http://www.aijac.org.au/updates/Feb-03/070203.html
Editorial: The Case for Action
The Washington Post, Wednesday, February 5, 2003; Page A22

.........Yet we believe that it would be a mistake for the United States and its allies, confronted with continued intransigence, to shrink again from decisive action in Iraq. Unless unexpected change takes place in Baghdad, the United States should lead a force to remove Saddam Hussein's dictatorship and locate and destroy its chemical and biological weapons and its nuclear program. The Iraqi regime poses a threat not just to the United States but to global order. The removal of Saddam Hussein would advance the task of containing the spread of weapons of mass destruction to rogue states. It also would free millions of Iraqis from deprivation and oppression and make possible a broader movement to reshape the Arab Middle East, where political and economic backwardness have done much to spawn extremists such as al Qaeda. In contrast, a continued failure to act would send dictators and terrorists a devastating message about the impotence of the United States and the United Nations. It would encourage extremists in their rush for nuclear, chemical and biological weapons..............

Ustwo, please provide us with the date that the Washington Post stopped it's hawkish backing of Bush's campaign of lies, and resumed it's actual role of "reporting", as it immersed itself in the anti-Bush "Op", described in Hinderaker's paranoid rant?

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http://www.washingtonian.com/inwashington/buzz/war.html
Post Now the Nation’s Most Hawkish Newspaper
Feb. 6, 2003
[T]he Washington Post issued a clarion call for war against Iraq in a February 5 editorial, thus becoming the nation’s most hawkish major daily newspaper.

While most major newspapers have published editorials demanding more proof that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction or have suggested that United Nations inspectors be given more time, the Post has enthusiastically adopted the Bush administration’s call to arms.

Under the headline “A Case for Action,” the Post editorial said: “Unless unexpected change takes place in Baghdad, the United States should lead a force to remove Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship and locate and destroy its chemical and biological weapons and its nuclear program. The Iraqi regime poses a threat not just to the United States but to global order.”

The Post’s 1,300-word editorial took up three-fourths of the paper’s opinion column. It ran the same day that Secretary of State Colin Powell presented the US case for war before the United Nations. Both the editorial and Powell were eloquent, persuasive, and so similar as to have come from the same pen.

“No doubt the Post has been beating the drum quite actively,” says Rem Rieder, editor of the American Journalism Review..............

Observe, at this link, John Hinderaker's open invitation to appear on CNN to spew his disinformation:
http://www.google.com/search?hs=MAs&...om&btnG=Search

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http://www.time.com/time/press_relea...009851,00.html
Web Exclusive | Press Releases
TIME NAMES ‘POWER LINE’ 2004 BLOG OF THE YEAR
‘… In 2004 blogs unexpectedly vaulted into the pantheon of major media, alongside TV, radio and yes, magazine and it was Power Line, more than any other blog, that got them there,’ TIME’s Lev Grossman reports

Posted Sunday, Dec. 19, 2004

New York – “Power Line” (www.powerlineblog.com) has been named Blog of the Year by TIME magazine, in this week’s Person of the Year issue. George W. Bush was named 2004 Person of the Year.

“Before this year, blogs were a curiosity, a cult phenomenon, a faintly embarrassing hobby on the order of ham radio and stamp collecting. But in 2004 blogs unexpectedly vaulted into the pantheon of major media, alongside TV, radio and, yes, magazines, and it was Power Line, more than any other blog, that got them there,” writes TIME’s Lev Grossman.

Power Line is the brainchild of two Minneapolis based lawyers John Hinderaker and Scott Johnson and Washington, D.C. based lawyer Paul Mirengoff. “My view,” Johnson says, “is that the mainstream media has acted as a means to obscure, as a kind of filter, a lens that makes it impossible to understand what’s going on in reality. We try to provide something that brings people closer to reality,” he tells TIME.

Power Line’s biggest challenge to the Main Stream media came in the form of its September 9th post titled, “The 61st Minute”, which questioned the validity of the now infamous 60 Minutes documents relating to President Bush’s service in the National Guard. “The 61st Minute” came from Power Line’s readers, not its ostensible writers. The Power Liners are quick, even eager, to point this out. “What this story shows, more than anything, is the power of the medium,” Hinderaker says. “The world is full of smart people who have information about every imaginable topic, and until the Internet came along, there wasn’t any practical way to put it together,” he tells TIME. TIME reports that Power Line roughly doubled its readership, to the point where it scored half a million hits on Election Day. “The msm (main stream media) will never look as high and mighty again, nor will blogs ever look as low and lowly," writes Grossman.

Ustwo, the truly paranoid are not the citizens who question and confront the Bush administrations usurping and consolidation of power at the expense of our liberties and our right to know.

The paranoids are in control of the apparatus of the state, they label us as subversive. and they monitor us illegally. They manipulate the media and hacks like John Hinderaker to spread their propaganda, and you are a link in their foodchain. You lap up their misinformation and repeat it here. Please stop!