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Old 12-30-2005, 10:41 AM   #316 (permalink)
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Ustwo, earlier in this thread, I directed this post:
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...&postcount=273

to your attention by starting it with two quotes of your prior statements.

In addtion to the material in the linked post above, I directed your attention to
statements made by Bush on April 20, 2004, and by Gonzales on Jan. 6, 2005:
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...&postcount=222

You did not respond, but you posted this today on the
<b>"Government Manipulation of a Free Press" </b>
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...7&postcount=43
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ustwo
Perhaps not in print, but on the radio, all I hear the left talk about is the wire tapping story trying to make it into something it isn't. Its kinda cute as they dig thier own political graves for 2006 mid term elections
It would be a gesture of respect from you to the rest of us, and a boost for your own credibility, if you could provide an argument that attempts to justify your statement, since you made no attempt to refute the argument that both Bush and Gonzales misled the congress and the American people about warrentless wiretapping, and that they bypassed the FISA court and jeopordized future and past prosecutions by failing to follow the law and the paper trail of justification and documentation for their surveillance that the deliberations of the FISA court provides in every request that is submitted to it for approval.

In response to the "news" that the Justice Dept. will investigate the "leaks" that influenced the NY Times' warrantless search reporting that had already been delayed by at least a year from being released to the public by the "influence" of the Bush administration, SCOTUS Justice Black put a similar matter...the attempt by another Executive Branch to block publication of the classified "Pentagon Papers", during the Vietnam War in 1971, this way:
Quote:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/htm...3_0713_ZC.html
......In the First Amendment, the Founding Fathers gave the free press the protection it must have to fulfill its essential role in our democracy. The press was to serve the governed, not the governors. The Government's power to censor the press was abolished so that the press would remain forever free to censure the Government. The press was protected so that it could bare the secrets of government and inform the people. Only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government. And paramount among the responsibilities of a free press is the duty to prevent any part of the government from deceiving the people and sending them off to distant lands to die of foreign fevers and foreign shot and shell. In my view, far from deserving condemnation for their courageous reporting, the New York Times, the Washington Post, and other newspapers should be commended for serving the purpose that the Founding Fathers saw so clearly. In revealing the workings of government that led to the Vietnam war, the newspapers nobly did precisely that which the Founders hoped and trusted they would do......
Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum.

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