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Originally Posted by ngdawg
Also, Jesus did not proclaim himself the son of God, but all people the children of God. I might point out that the gospels were all written long after Jesus' death, and, although it would appear otherwise, NOT by his disciples, so any claims at all as to what he did or said are hugely suspect and most likely greatly exagerated.
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When discussing Jesus or religion in general, espically with religious people, I would think that attacking the bible, whether your attack has merrit or not, isn't constructive. If one is to discuss something from the perspective of Chsitian (as I am doing), I must cite the bible and other religious texts as fact.
Also Jesus did claim to be the son of God.
-I and my Father are one. John 10:30
-They all asked, "Are you then the Son of God?" He (Jesus) replied, "You are right in saying I am." (Luke 22:70)
-Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father..." Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father ... Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?" (John 14:8-10)
-For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. (John 3:16)
-All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows who the Son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him. (Luke 10:22)