Originally Posted by james t kirk

I agree with your second point, however, with regard to your first point, it is the politicians who make the laws and I see the current justice system as a complete joke. Especially the young offenders act.

Here's what David Miller had to say about it today,

"Guns come from two places, about half of them come from the United States and about half are stolen from legal gun owners in and around Toronto which is why I support a ban on handgun ownership," Miller said."

He is in total denial mode as usual. Blaming the USA and looking to a hand gun ban to solve his problems. He is without direction or guts on this issue and is failing as a mayor in what is proving to be the most crucial issue of his tenure as mayor.

I never had any particualar love for Fantino because I thought he let the corruption at the police dept. get completely out of hand, never the less on this issue, I agree with him 100%.

This is what he had to say,

"Certainly we have to look at all of these socio-economic issues and considerations but at the end of the day, we're still dealing with a hard-core (group) of young people who are pre-disposed to violence, afraid of nothing and accountable to no one."

http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/A..._update_051228

I don't know why the politicians don't have the balls to bring in legislation to repeal the young offenders act as it pertains to violent crime, and enact laws that say if you commit a crime with a gun, you get an automatic life sentence. Get caught with a hand gun in public, you get an automatic 10 year sentence.

We have tried the "we understand your socio-economic hardship made you do it" followed by a big I understand hug route in the legal system. It obviously isn't working.