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Old 12-28-2005, 05:05 AM   #311 (permalink)
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I think that it is showing desperation. They can't fight what they are doing, public opinion is tearing them apart, even senators from their own party are looking to investigate and one has to ask, what isn't Bush coming clean about. It took a newspaper report to uncover this, what is he doing that isn't being reported?

Of course Murdoch is going to attack his competition. He wants to be the only game in town. But I don't think his attacks are going to work much anymore. People are tired of hearing 9/11 as an excuse for everything.

Plus, as I pointed out above, how the Hell can you say you are protecting the nation when you allow 1000's of illegals to cross the border every single day?

Are we truly supposed to believe that every terrorist is going to call their friends overseas and give the plans?

I'm also tired of the Right's argument that "we have forgotten the horrors of 9/11"...... To anyone using that FUCK YOU how dare you use that to further your own purpose and to excuse the president for his illegal actions. I cannot nor will not forget 9/11, but I will not allow a president to use that as an excuse to commit illegal actions.

I will not be told that because I want to hold the president to the laws of the land, that I am a traitor, that I have forgotten or that I am weak. The people using these excuses have no better defenses than attacking. They cannot defend the actions of the president, they cannot even support the actions of the president. All they can do is attack and threaten and blame the "leaks".....

Then there's the argument I heard yesterday about the warrants, the question was "why didn't he get the warrants even after the fact?"

The response was laughable. "Well, the court is not a rubber stamp and they may not have approved of it. We're supposed to let these people go then? I believe some people have forgotten the true horrors of 9/11 because Bush has protected us."

When the rebuttal was "the last major attack before 9/11 happened 8 years before in 1993, and the one before that was OKC a US natural that had no Al Quida ties. So what makes you believe that we would get another one now/"

The answer was..... "well regardless, Bush is doing what needs to be done."

I'm watching the local news right now and they are having e-mails on and the 5 they read all stated that Bush should be investigated. One made a good point that Bush came forward on this only because of the Times report and questioned what is going on that he doesn't have to come forward on because the news isn't reporting it.

The anchor states, "we are at war and the president is doing what is best for all of us."

Guess what news affiliate.....

The scary part for me is if we do try to investigate Bush, he has nothing to lose then and what might he do? And if we do impeach him, does anyone feel safer with Cheney as president? With Condoleeza? With Hastert? How far down the presidential chain do we have to go?

And here is the blow that not a single Righty can answer yes to.... and since they can't I would guess that that shows they truly cannot support Bush's actions, that it is only their hate that allows him their leniency.

If this were Hilary, or Bill or Kerry or Gore..... would you still argue that they haven't overstepped any boundaries?

I would still have my position. Would you?
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