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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Taking out gang on gang voilence the US has a very low murder rate, and a lower crime rate than most of Europe.
But reguardless its apples in the oranges here.
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I'm not clear why removing gang on gang violence has any bearing here... violence is violence... murder rate is murder rate. The gang violence is part of the system that is America... just because it doesn't show the same sorts of numbers in other countries doesn't mean apples and oranges it just means the US has bigger fruit.