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Originally Posted by Ustwo
They were only monitoring calls going to or from OUTSIDE the US.
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Hehe I think the title of this thread needs to be changed based to fit the current tone.
Replace ' Did the Bush admin break the law?'
with....
'We hope the Bush admin broke the law.'
We are arguing over technicalities, unknown data, and legal issues NONE of us have the slightest knowledge over.......
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I've already provided solid evidence, in quotes from Bush and Gonzales, on government web pages, that demonstrate that neither official is trustworthy in their statements about wire-tapping authority. Bush's comments were in front of a live and televized audience of the American people, and Gonzales spoke while he was under oath before a senate committee.
Your "take" on this is a bit of a stretch, Ustwo!
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...&postcount=222
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0051219-2.html
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
December 19, 2005
Press Conference of the President
The East Room
THE PRESIDENT: I appreciate that. First, I want to make clear to the people listening that this program is limited in nature to those that are known al Qaeda ties and/or affiliates. That's important. So it's a program that's limited, and you brought up something that I want to stress, and that is, is that these calls are not intercepted within the country. <b>They are from outside the country to in the country, or vice versa. So in other words, this is not a -- if you're calling from Houston to L.A., that call is not monitored. And if there was ever any need to monitor, there would be a process to do that.</b>
I think I've got the authority to move forward, Kelly. I mean, this is what -- and the Attorney General was out briefing this morning about why it's legal to make the decisions I'm making. I can fully understand why members of Congress are expressing concerns about civil liberties. I know that. And it's -- I share the same concerns. I want to make sure the American people understand, however, that we have an obligation to protect you, and we're doing that and, at the same time, protecting your civil liberties.
Secondly, an open debate about law would say to the enemy, here is what we're going to do. And this is an enemy which adjusts. We monitor this program carefully. We have consulted with members of the Congress over a dozen times. We are constantly reviewing the program. Those of us who review the program have a duty to uphold the laws of the United States, and we take that duty very seriously..........
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The answer Bush gave at this press conference two days ago, is bullshit.
Very similar to the BS he spoke in Buffalo on April 20, 2004, and the BS that Gonzales gave under oath to Senator Feingold on Jan. 6, 2005.
If you take these men at their word, Ustwo, you are naive and you demonstrate only a casual embrace of your guaranteed rights spelled out in our constitution.