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Originally Posted by pan6467
First I started the thread, I am not going to one of the most expensive colleges, nor am I complaining about having to sell a car.
Actually other than my recent medical bills that now stand at $25,000, I am doing quite well for myself. (and I have recieved a 4th phone call telling me if I quit my job I will qualify for aid on my bills, which I have said and continue to say is BS...... why would you not help someone who actually is bettering society, instead of telling them to quit and then get the help needed?)
Just because I am though does not mean that the kids coming up will be.
If you care to take me up on the debate I offered fine.....
As for infant mortality rates we are behind most other comparable countries, we in fact rank with several 3rd world countries..... Evidence I have posted and reposted on several threads.
As for our life exdpectency, again it is behind most othe comparable other countries again... Evidence I have posted and reposted on several threads.
Both go by per capita and percentages not based on how many people live in the country.
Name some companies that pay $50,000 jobs that train people, who start at the ground level without a college degree.
I posted a challenge of a debate, you are more than welcome to take me up on it.
I just believe as I have stated,
if you want to cut social spending.... then prove it needs done and is beneficial to the nation and do it..... we probably could cut pork.
If you want to cut taxes on the rich.... then prove it is needed and will help the nation and do it
But it is suicidal to the country's economy, the welfare of the middle and lower classes and is just showing greed when you do both. It's not justifiable in any way.
I can also prove, that I who make $12,000 roughly pay more of a percentage of my income in taxes than the rich...... yet they cry that they pay too much? AND I make too little to qualify for any healtchcare or education programs (except student loans).
I have no problem paying taxes, IF the money is going to advance the future of this nation..... by cutting education, healthcare and social benefits then cutting the taxes for the rich.... it's not helping the future of the country.
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Sorry confused you with Willtravel.
I agree that we should be number 1 at everything, but we are not. But I did not say life expectancy, infant mortality was the best in the world. We both know there are many factors other than tax dollars spent that impact the results.
I know many people making 50k or more, who don't have college degrees, started at the bottom and worked their way up the ladder. Happens everyday. I worked in HR for a company with 15,000+ people, most did not have degrees and the average person was making about 40k at the time I left in '97, not including benefits. Start a survey, prove it to yourself.
How do we debate, I did not see the offer. But I would love to.
Bush "cut taxes", however, tax receipts are up. He cut tax rates, not taxes. Rich people are paying more, not less. If tax rates are high, rich people find ways to avoid paying taxes, ask the Kennedy's about it, they are experts.
People will help people and do it more effeciently than government. Government entitlement programs actually prevent people from being in control of their own lives. There is a big difference between providing a real safety net as compared to what we have today.