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Dragonknight · 12-21-2005, 09:17 AM

Okay so I've read through most of this post and it scares and angers me. People will go spouting off about there "Oh so untouchable rights" yet are willing to sacrifice NOTHING what so ever to have them. They want to sit on there butts at home with more crap then most anyone in the world has because it's "Their right" to have these nice things. What did you do to earn these wondrous rights I ask??? Your For Fathers fought and died for them, they sacrificed there time and lives to do so. Yet you can't stand the thought of someone listening in on your calls to some country, where the hell ever it is or read those oh so important e-mails that God forbid someone see, because it will totally ruin your life when they read it or listen in and say "No he's not planning on killing innocent people" and never once think twice about it. It’s not some average Joe we’re talking about. These are people who are trained, and tested over and over again to get their jobs with background checks that are worse then the worst audit. These people can and will keep your secret fling with the dancing clown a secret, because it’s there job to do so. If you are planning on blowing up the Brooklyn bridge though there going to cause you some problems.

Did Bush break the law, yeah if you, or I, or any other average Joe did it, but when your the NSA, FBI, CIA, INTERPOL, or any other organization DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY to catch those who don't want to be caught NO NO and NO no law was broken. Do we as a nation really expect the above-mentioned organizations to get a warrant for EVERY wiretap they want? These are the guys that have to sneak in the shadows to catch the BAD GUYS. How else are they going to catch these people? The very reason for a government agency is to not be seen. If your not doing anything wrong then you have Nothing to worry about. Hell you will never even know they are/were there.

Yeah I'm sorry some people got grilled over what they said, did, or wrote. That's all that happened though they got grilled. If they were innocent then nothing happened. I'd rather have them be a little too careful then not careful enough. Think of the parent who goes through their kids stuff because they think they’re on/or drugs doing or something they shouldn't be. Are they wrong when they find drugs, guns, or a letter on how they plan on doing something completely wrong that could harm them or others? Should we punish that parent for violating their child’s right to privacy? Then we'll give the kid back the drugs, guns, or what ever and tell them to have a nice day. Now that child will fill safe knowing that their rights are being protected to the fullest extent possible.

Now yes in the Utopian society that some think we live in the parents can simply go up to there 100% morally right kid and say, "Hey Billy/Suzie are you smoking crack?” and yes in the Utopian society you happy people live in Billy/Suzie will happily say, "Why yes mom/dad I was/or have been smoking crack." Just remember in that Utopian society there will be no drug, guns, or problems. Now it the real world where I live unfortunately this won't happen, so mom and dad have to do a little looking into things on there own. Not all have to do this but more do then don't. It's the same with the government, and if your doing nothing wrong then you have no worries.

Please remember this is only about the wiretaps.

Please don't take my writing (as miss spelled and grammatically incorrect as it is) to be open hostility, I only meant to show how vehemently I feel about this subject. Every one has there own opinion and I can live with that. If I came off harsh I’m sorry. Mods if you want me to change this please let me know and I will.

12-21-2005, 09:17 AM	#251 (permalink)
Dragonknight Insane Location: Hawaii	Okay so I've read through most of this post and it scares and angers me. People will go spouting off about there "Oh so untouchable rights" yet are willing to sacrifice NOTHING what so ever to have them. They want to sit on there butts at home with more crap then most anyone in the world has because it's "Their right" to have these nice things. What did you do to earn these wondrous rights I ask??? Your For Fathers fought and died for them, they sacrificed there time and lives to do so. Yet you can't stand the thought of someone listening in on your calls to some country, where the hell ever it is or read those oh so important e-mails that God forbid someone see, because it will totally ruin your life when they read it or listen in and say "No he's not planning on killing innocent people" and never once think twice about it. It’s not some average Joe we’re talking about. These are people who are trained, and tested over and over again to get their jobs with background checks that are worse then the worst audit. These people can and will keep your secret fling with the dancing clown a secret, because it’s there job to do so. If you are planning on blowing up the Brooklyn bridge though there going to cause you some problems. Did Bush break the law, yeah if you, or I, or any other average Joe did it, but when your the NSA, FBI, CIA, INTERPOL, or any other organization DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY to catch those who don't want to be caught NO NO and NO no law was broken. Do we as a nation really expect the above-mentioned organizations to get a warrant for EVERY wiretap they want? These are the guys that have to sneak in the shadows to catch the BAD GUYS. How else are they going to catch these people? The very reason for a government agency is to not be seen. If your not doing anything wrong then you have Nothing to worry about. Hell you will never even know they are/were there. Yeah I'm sorry some people got grilled over what they said, did, or wrote. That's all that happened though they got grilled. If they were innocent then nothing happened. I'd rather have them be a little too careful then not careful enough. Think of the parent who goes through their kids stuff because they think they’re on/or drugs doing or something they shouldn't be. Are they wrong when they find drugs, guns, or a letter on how they plan on doing something completely wrong that could harm them or others? Should we punish that parent for violating their child’s right to privacy? Then we'll give the kid back the drugs, guns, or what ever and tell them to have a nice day. Now that child will fill safe knowing that their rights are being protected to the fullest extent possible. Now yes in the Utopian society that some think we live in the parents can simply go up to there 100% morally right kid and say, "Hey Billy/Suzie are you smoking crack?” and yes in the Utopian society you happy people live in Billy/Suzie will happily say, "Why yes mom/dad I was/or have been smoking crack." Just remember in that Utopian society there will be no drug, guns, or problems. Now it the real world where I live unfortunately this won't happen, so mom and dad have to do a little looking into things on there own. Not all have to do this but more do then don't. It's the same with the government, and if your doing nothing wrong then you have no worries. Please remember this is only about the wiretaps. Please don't take my writing (as miss spelled and grammatically incorrect as it is) to be open hostility, I only meant to show how vehemently I feel about this subject. Every one has there own opinion and I can live with that. If I came off harsh I’m sorry. Mods if you want me to change this please let me know and I will. __________________ Freedom is NOT Free.