aceventura3

The person who started this discussion is going to one of the more expensive colleges in the country, yet he complained about a government cut in a student loan program. He further complained about needing to sell his car. In other words we are talking about someone wanting a government handout, but does not want to make a personal sacrifice. His education is not free. Many hard working people who never had an opportunity and will never benefit from going to a big prestigious university are paying for the program he complains about. The government takes dollars from the guy just getting by for another guy's benefit and it is as if no one realizes that. And then the guy getting the benefit doesn't even say thanks.

Government sponsored training programs are a drop in the bucket. First a person gets a basic education through highschool, then they can go to a subsidized junior college or a state school. If a person f***'s off thier high school education, can't read, do math, and write, I am willing to help those people, but at some point they need to pay the cost for that. Real job training happens in the private sector, all the private sector needs are people who can read, write, do math, and think. The real problem is most people with no skills don't want to start at the bottom.

First no one is starving in this country. Second if we did not have food stamps, people and charitable organizations will step-up and help. I know you would, I would, and everyone else on this forum would. Even during the Great Depression, without food stamps, people did not starve.

We have the best healthcare in the world. People live longer than ever before. We spend more money not less on medical care. Infant survival rates are high than at anytime in history.

Where would you draw the line between socialism and allowing people to benefit from hardwork and sacrifice?