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Old 12-21-2005, 06:46 AM   #234 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by stevo
Before you get on me about bringing up Clinton and Carter, wait. Its not about "well, look what Clinton did." Its about "If it wasn't illegal then, why is it illegal now?"
continue.
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-12949.htm


http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo12139.htm


http://nationalreview.com/york/york200512200946.asp


It seemed to be OK when presidents clinton, carter, and even reagan issued executive orders to gather intelligence on US citizens without a warrant. But Mr. Bush does it and every liberal blows his top.
I already answered that here post #57 http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...ge#post1962298

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So you people on the Right, where is the same outrage you showed for Waco? Ruby Ridge?

Same principles. Government saw someone breaking the law and refused to go about the right channels, instead the Constitution gets walked over and shat on and when Clinton did it the Right howled and cried foul and not their own president does it and they are making excuses why it was ok.

Clinton wasn't right for those instances above and had Congress tried to impeach him for those, I would probably have agreed.
Wrong is wrong. Illegal is illegal. And NO PRESIDENT is above the law when it comes to the rights of the people.

This quote came from your own National review article:

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Meanwhile, Congress began discussing a measure under which the authorization for break-ins would be handled like the authorization for wiretaps, that is, by the FISA court.


So in the end, yes, it is still illegal.

All the Carter stuff just puts into action the FISA court, who falls under its authority.

NIce try though to try to paint me as hypocritical.... but won't work.
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