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pan6467 · 12-20-2005, 09:53 PM

Unions with the right leadership are very beneficial and keep workers recieving good pay and benefits.

A union will show that there is retribution for a company's actions.

However, under poor management, they become top heavy and the greed of the few begins to weigh more on the good of the many.

Both my grandfathers literally risked their lives to get unions in where they worked. And it helped them get paid better, gave them better benefits and safer working conditions.

Those are the good points.

The bad is that seniority allows laziness and hassles in order to fire those who abuse the system.

Unions, like government and industry, need to streamline, return to the sole purpose of protecting the worker, and cut the pork. If someone doesn't do the job, then the union needs to reprimand him and show that their loyalty is to getting the job done at a cost beneficial to both labor and corporation, while protecting the worker..... not protecting the worker and allowing the system to be so abused that the job costs far more than it needs to.

I grew up in a GM plant town, the stories of people who would go in work 15 minutes and then fall asleep holding a broom, or leave and not clock out, and so on because they had senoirity and were protected by the union ran rampant. Those are the things unions need to clamp down on and show companies and the public that those abuses will not be tolerated.

12-20-2005, 09:53 PM	#78 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Unions with the right leadership are very beneficial and keep workers recieving good pay and benefits. A union will show that there is retribution for a company's actions. However, under poor management, they become top heavy and the greed of the few begins to weigh more on the good of the many. Both my grandfathers literally risked their lives to get unions in where they worked. And it helped them get paid better, gave them better benefits and safer working conditions. Those are the good points. The bad is that seniority allows laziness and hassles in order to fire those who abuse the system. Unions, like government and industry, need to streamline, return to the sole purpose of protecting the worker, and cut the pork. If someone doesn't do the job, then the union needs to reprimand him and show that their loyalty is to getting the job done at a cost beneficial to both labor and corporation, while protecting the worker..... not protecting the worker and allowing the system to be so abused that the job costs far more than it needs to. I grew up in a GM plant town, the stories of people who would go in work 15 minutes and then fall asleep holding a broom, or leave and not clock out, and so on because they had senoirity and were protected by the union ran rampant. Those are the things unions need to clamp down on and show companies and the public that those abuses will not be tolerated. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"