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It worked for the previous generation, the baby boomer.

If you make education (college) available for EVERYONE, the past has shown the poor do take advantage of it and move forward and upward.

If the government sponsors training programs, they work and the poor move upward and forward.

If you have a healthcare system where people are not afraid to go, preventative medicine is cheaper because more people go before that cough turns into pneumonia or worse.

Food stamps keep people from starving.

Is there abuse? Most definately, on both sides. But overall, the past has shown when you spend on social programs to better people the rewards are there.

Now when you cut programs and you allow jobs to go overseas and refuse to train workers so they can get better jobs, when you cut education to where the poor and middle classes cannot afford it..... these prohibit advancement.

I've used my dad as an example over and over on here. He grew up in one of the poorest households in the area. He truly was dirt poor.

However, he was able to advance because of government sponsored programs that allowed companies to train him, he was able to go to college with money in the form of loans and grants (while keeping a family of 4 fed).

And it worked, he is now a very successful man. His drive and my mother pushing him helped, but in the long run he admits it was because the government helped him.

He pays more in taxes now than he ever would have had he not gotten the help from the government. But he also can afford more personal luxury than he ever dreamt of regardless of the tax rate, and it is solely because the programms were there to advance him.

A lot of baby boomers moved upward this way. Most couldn't afford college on their own, but with Pell Grants, loans and other programs they got into college became the best educated in the world and advanced in society.

When I pay taxes, (and I am not happy about it but I pay my share), I expect my money to go to uses to better the country and people's lives.

If because of taxes people get better jobs and advance forward then, in their advancement the tax base increases and they help others to advance.

Instead what we are seeing are people crying about taxes, education going into the shitter because people care more about their money and class advancement declining.

Now, show me 1 rich person that cannot afford that new car or mansion, or trip to Jamaica, because of taxes.

Yet, I can show you poor people who work and can barely make it, because sales taxes, property taxes, etc. have risen to cover the losses from the tax cuts to the rich.

I can show you where in our past one reason this country was very successful in the 1950's-80's was because of small business loans and grants, education, and so on.

I can show you now where because of cuts those oppurtunities are no longer there.

In the past the undereducated could just go work at a factory and still make good money. But there are no true factories and prevailing wages are such that people can barely eek out livings..... so there is a huge build up of credit and debt.

You educate and elevate people to maximize their fullest potential and the rewards are a greater tax base that can handle paying the programs back so that others can use them.

You cut the programs, there is no elevation, people do not adavance and the programs die because funding is not there.

Now, you cut the social spending..... perhaps we need to, but try fixing the system first. Cut the pork don't cut the benefits that allow people to advance.

But you cut anyway, saying we cannot afford it. Ok....

But then you cut income from the tax revenue and the cuts you made in the social programs aren't going to help.

It's like you at home. You want to help your kid have a better life than you so you save for him to go to college. But then times get tough for you and you have to cut the amount you save, but at the time you cut the amount you save you also start getting paid less.... so you cut the savings to where you believe you can sustain it, but then you get paid less..... so eventually you are paid so little you cannot save anything. Then, you start going into debt and you have to use the funds you saved, till they are gone. But you are still indebt, because of the necessities in life. Yet, your wages keep getting cut.

That is what the government is doing. They aren't helping cut the deficit, they are not doing anything positive. All they are doing is cutting spending on needed programs, replacing that with tax cuts and spending on bridges to nowhere, and pork programs that are not advancing anyone, while cutting revenue. The debts pile up still but now you have a tax base that is undereducated and cannot compete on the world market for jobs and thus get paid less, so tax revenue is less and so on.

It is a downward spiral.

Cut the pork, streamline spending to help, but not be abused. And if needed cut spending, or if you feel tax cuts will generate private spending and renew the tax base do that. But in the end cutting both is suicidal and will destroy this nation's greatness.

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