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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
edit: actually, now that i'm thinking about it, your argument is totally hypothetical in nature. There is zero proof that people would have died or important infrastructure would have been destroyed had the law been followed and a warrant applied for. Instead you mistakenly, or intentionally, surmise that breaking the law was the only possible thing to do in order to prevent a terrorist act.
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The proof doesn't matter when I am describing how you feel we should act, and you asnwered that in replying to Stevo
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You say my view of the law is fundamentalist in nature, does that not fly in the face of those who say the constitution is not a living document? those that feel it should be strictly interpreted?
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I've never stated what I think should be done in relation to this, I only stated that I think it was the right course of action. I think once all is investigated nothing will come of it as the executive branch has pretty far reaching powers when it comes to national security. There won't be any tape on the door locks in this case.
I know who the left wing hacks are and I don't think you are one of them, so I think I can maybe explain our differences a bit on how we view this, and I'll guess it has something to do with when we grew up.
I'm about as young as you can get and still have 'grow up' during the cold war, I was an adult before the USSR fell. The biggest external threat was global thermal nuclear war and as such it took up a lot of your thinking. Movies and TV enhanced this feeling of threat, and James Bond was a hero many kids wanted to be like. Real spies were admired, and new military and spy technology was the stuff of small talk. Every few years there would be another major spy ring exposed and we would cringe thinking of what they divulged. The concept of breaking the law with a wire tap would have been assinine to even think of, it was expected that we would NOT follow the law, international or domestic, and we didn't. This wasn't information you gathered to go to court with, it was information you gathered to keep the upper hand.
I view the current conflict in the same light. Its a war for survival and supremacy. I am far less worried about its legalities than I am results. Instead of treating this as an external threat, some want to treat it closer to an organized crime family, and we all know how effective that has been.