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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
again, it does not, nor has it ever been carte blanche to break the law.
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Nope its not, but if a law was broken here it was broken for ethical reasons.
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No, i hate godwin. use whatever example you like. many leaders throughout world history have used 'national security' to justify breaking the law. julius ceaser, numerous kings in england, the list goes on and on.
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This doesn't explain why you brought up Nuermburg specificly.
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I don't need, nor do I want, a governmental babysitter. So many so called conservatives cry about a nanny state but they certainly refer to big time doublespeak when it comes to an issue that they can't justify legally. It's BS. I did not elect a babysitter, I elected someone to uphold and defend the constitution. What kind of leader is the person that can say the constitution doesn't apply 'in times of war'?
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Sounds very libertarian of you, so I suppose you are against welfare etc too? If so good for you, we agree there. Still its not 'baby sitting' in that you are not being treated as a baby unable to fend for your self (like welfare does). Monitoring 500 people in the US with suspected terrorist ties is a long way from the nanny state. If they broke a wiretapping law (key word being if) I will lose no sleep over it.