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ObieX · 12-14-2005, 07:06 PM

I really would like to see *something* done to change the situation with Iraq. Sure the pres came forward with all this *finally*.. but what does it really matter? What has changed? What will change? I have the feeling that things will go on the way they have ben going on this whole time. The lies will continue, some of th same ones, some new ones. (The number of Iraqi troops that are actually trained and being used for example.. no one seems to actually know how many are doing what they're supposed to be doing, etc..) The party in power will hold more-or-less a unified front unless they need to shift slightly to get re-elected and that is the most we'll see when it comes to change. In the mean time people will continue to die every single day with no end in sight.

I mean.. what will happen when the Iraqi troops are finally able to get themselves going and the US pulls most of our guys out? How long will that fighting continue to range on? It would be like Northern Ireland only much much worse, and of course every other country in the region will throw their weight around and mix things up in Iraq and make things a complete mess. But we'll be out of there and unable to do anything about it. So it'll still be a huge mess, most likely worse than what we started with,a nd the problems in the region will continue on and on and on as thy always have and always will. It will never end.

I really wonder if the people who said we would be greeted with flowers on the streets really believed those words, or if they were just saying them to get us there. I mean i *KNOW* that they heard over and over from an uncountable number of sources the type of chaos that would erupt if we started a war there. They had to have known what the true situation would be like, they aren't stupid.. thse are men who have lived and breathed this stuff for most of their lives.. they're not stupid or naive. They *KNEW* what would really happen. *EVERYONE* knew what would really happen. Why did they want us there? Why did they lie so blantantly? Why are they still lying so blatantly? Why and where are they still finding support for this?

Of course its all too late now. We're there, and anyone who thinks we're leaving next year should have their head examined. Our troops will never leave that country. We're in and we're staying. We needed control over that region and this is the best control we will ever have. We need the resources there and if a few hundred thousand people have to die then that is what will happen. This is the reality of the United States of America and the world today. It's a truly horrifying reality, and sugar-coating it does no one any good.

12-14-2005, 07:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
ObieX Pickles Location: Shirt and Pants (NJ)	I really would like to see something done to change the situation with Iraq. Sure the pres came forward with all this finally.. but what does it really matter? What has changed? What will change? I have the feeling that things will go on the way they have ben going on this whole time. The lies will continue, some of th same ones, some new ones. (The number of Iraqi troops that are actually trained and being used for example.. no one seems to actually know how many are doing what they're supposed to be doing, etc..) The party in power will hold more-or-less a unified front unless they need to shift slightly to get re-elected and that is the most we'll see when it comes to change. In the mean time people will continue to die every single day with no end in sight. I mean.. what will happen when the Iraqi troops are finally able to get themselves going and the US pulls most of our guys out? How long will that fighting continue to range on? It would be like Northern Ireland only much much worse, and of course every other country in the region will throw their weight around and mix things up in Iraq and make things a complete mess. But we'll be out of there and unable to do anything about it. So it'll still be a huge mess, most likely worse than what we started with,a nd the problems in the region will continue on and on and on as thy always have and always will. It will never end. I really wonder if the people who said we would be greeted with flowers on the streets really believed those words, or if they were just saying them to get us there. I mean i KNOW that they heard over and over from an uncountable number of sources the type of chaos that would erupt if we started a war there. They had to have known what the true situation would be like, they aren't stupid.. thse are men who have lived and breathed this stuff for most of their lives.. they're not stupid or naive. They KNEW what would really happen. EVERYONE knew what would really happen. Why did they want us there? Why did they lie so blantantly? Why are they still lying so blatantly? Why and where are they still finding support for this? Of course its all too late now. We're there, and anyone who thinks we're leaving next year should have their head examined. Our troops will never leave that country. We're in and we're staying. We needed control over that region and this is the best control we will ever have. We need the resources there and if a few hundred thousand people have to die then that is what will happen. This is the reality of the United States of America and the world today. It's a truly horrifying reality, and sugar-coating it does no one any good. __________________ We Must Dissent.