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Originally Posted by kutulu
Talk about splitting hairs. That goes way too far. The next day, how can one honestly say 'well you were drunker than me so you should have known better, even though i can't remember what happened'
There has to be some sense of personal responsibility in action. The whole 'a drunk person can't give consent' rule is BS. Unless they were drugged, which would make it a totally different case, they CHOSE to drink that much. To compare drunken sex (a quite common thing throughout history) with sexual violence is beyond asinine.
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Back in my frat days, we had some required rape sensitivity course or some such. One thing they stated was that if a girl had ANYTHING to drink, and you had sex, it could be called rape. This is of course stupid.
On the other hand, I saw enough girls so drunk off their ass they didn't know where they were, who they were with, or what they were doing. I remember we once found a girl asleep in the pile of coats after a big party and no one knew who she was. A few hours later her friends finally came looking for her.
Having sex with any of them I would have called rape. Sure it was their choice to drink themselves into oblivion, but it doesn't take a lot of morals and personal ethics to figure out that doing anything with them would be taking unwarranted advantage of them. I see sex with them as being no better than having sex with someone who fell down the stairs and was knocked unconscious.