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Originally Posted by abaya
One more time: He HAS been out of society. That is the whole point of incarceration; removal from society. If he had been granted clemency, he would not have walked free from jail. He would have remained in jail for life.
[snip]Frankly, the blood-thirstiness of some people on this thread shocks me.
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I'm not saying he hasn't been. My post was meant to illustrate that I am torn on the subject. Life in prison is a waste if they're not being rehabilitated... and let's face it, most of them aren't.
Like it's been said, lots of people sing differently when they're face with actual consequences. But once those consequences are dealt with (get out on probation), they suddenly stop caring. That's my problem with the Tookie thing - sure, he's so helpful now. I wonder how long he's been trying to get out of the death penalty. I honestly believe that some people will never change - most of us do not change our basic natures significantly over our lifetimes. Thus, why not remove the problem rather than allow it to continue to affect us?
On the other hand...what if they actually are innocent??
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... anyway, he's gone now. They had trouble finding the vein, apparently... took 12 minutes to administer the injection last night. Jesus.
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And that made me cringe just reading it. So it's not like I'm sold on the death penalty either. It's a complex issue. I don't believe there is an easy answer. But that answer has got to involve prison policy reform - it's clear that it's not helping/working/anything right about now.