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Old 12-12-2005, 03:58 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Marvelous Marv
I just realized this little sentence of yours wrapped up my entire point and put a little bow on it.

It caused a firestorm when I mentioned Clinton's transgressions, but you're allowed to bring up Reagan. I don't see Ratbastid wringing his hands about that--apparently, you two have no problem with bringing up 20-year-old scandals, as long as they're REPUBLICAN ones.
Oh no. You're not getting away with it that easilly. YOU are the one who said no OTHER president in history had ever done something like that. YOU brought it up. I refuted. Ball's still in your court.

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Reagan said, "Give them everything they ask for."
I didn't know you wrote political fiction. But that sentence proves it.

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Cunningham said, "The truth is I broke the law, concealed my conduct and disgraced my office." He resigned. As far as is known, he didn't cause anyone to die.
Yeah. Note the second point - concealed his conduct. So don't tell me he's a full-disclosure guy. He admitted it after he'd been caught and there was no way to refute the mounds of evidence against him.

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Janet Reno said, "I take full responsibility." She should have added that she took the responsibility as long as she wasn't tried for frying 80 people, and as long as she didn't have to leave office.
Not entirely sure what an idiotic decision regarding the Branch Davidians has to do with today, but OK. I guess you have us there. Democrats screw up too. Of course, I've never SAID they don't, but you sure do like insinuating that I've said it. More political fiction anyone?



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One more little detail on Iran-Contra: At the time, helping them was in our country's interest. It involved conventional weapons.
No it most certainly was not in our interest. In the first place, helping terrorists is NEVER in a country's interest because it only makes the next time that much worse. In the second place, if it was really in our best interest, why did they try so hard to cover it up?



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However, no one has yet explained to me why Clinton and Jimmy Carter gave the North Koreans nuclear material. It's now a huge problem , but you've clearly said you don't give a damn, and you would rather concentrate on the supposed "outing" of a CIA agent who was known worldwide.
That's impressive. You're attempting to give the impression that I talked about the CIA agent. I haven't said one thing in this thread about the CIA agent. And again, because you seem to be having a tough time getting this, I'm not excusing any wrongs that Clinton did. But the fact that he made mistakes does NOT excuse Bush or anyone else. "Well he did it too" is NOT a valid argument, no matter how many times you repeat it.


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Thanks for posting this. It was very helpful.

Apparently not - - you're still not getting the message.
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