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Originally Posted by Lebell
Of course they are biased. But that doesn't mean they made up the scandals. Those are real.
Host, I think that the point was made to those who want to hear. I understand that the majority of current scandals are related to the party in power, but my point was and is that this is nothing new.
Is that reason not to investigate and prosecute? No. Nor do I think it is reason for this demonizing of Republicans.
And on a last note, this "agenda" that you have now twice accused me of having regarding the Republicans belongs in Paranoia, not here.
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Lebell, I think that our exchanges on this thread:
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...t=96647&page=1
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...t=96647&page=2
......helps to illuminate the gulf that seperates us.
That thread I linked above was sidetracked by your posts that advocated Victoria Toensing and her husband, Jospeph DiGenova as reliable sources on the subject of whether any law was broken in the "outing" of Valerie Plame.
Toensing and DiGenova, both former federal prosecutors of conservative political sympathies, if this <a href="http://www.google.com/search?svnum=10&as_scoring=r&hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=fitzgerald+DiGenova+OR+toensing&btnmeta%3Dsearch%3Dsearch=Search+the+Web">link</a> is any indication, have polluted the internet with their unceasing propagandist self-promotion, masked as authoritative comment. It might even seem convincing as a "public service" message, if not for it's frequency and repetitiveness.
Does it never occur to you, Lebell, to inventory all of your politcial opinions to assess how they have been influenced by other "Toensing/DiGenova style,
talking point "Ops"? Do you think that your taking notice and then acting to
distribute Toensing's "material, was a one-time incident in your continuous processing and filtering of current events and political information?
Another example that comes to mind were our discussions of David Horowitz.
When you post something on here as a citation, you end up "owning" it.
How much slack did you cut for me, when I erroneously posted a fictional article from the whitehouse.org website. I apologized for my mistake as quickly as I could, in the sincerest way that I could convey via this medium.
Did you let it go at that, or did you remind everyone about my whitehouse.org mistake, again, later? (To your credit, you soon deleted the post that contained that criticism, but you did not apologize for it, or for the Toensing referrals that you've made on other threads.
I don't "hate Bush", and I don't "hate" conservatives or republicans. I attended a Southern Baptist sunday service this a.m. because it pleases my wife when I accompany her. I politely listened to a Bush supporter in our congregation, when we shared a noon meal after the service, as he stated that Bush has done everything right, except for secruing the borders and is now on the right track, there, too! I kept silent and smiled as he told us that the military acadmey where his son attends is rife with the influence of "atheist democrats". (All I could think of is the conservative christian takeover of the Air Force academy.) He went so far as to declare that christians were outnumbered and "put upon", here in America.
What I "hate" Lebell, is hypocrisy, and the confident assertions of those who
mistake popaganda and misinformation, for "fair and balanced" reporting.
We are living on the other side of the '94 "Contract" that republicans used to take over the first branch of congress, on their way to a coup that now includes all three. They promised a higher standard, an ethical, moral, accountable government. Term limits..... How do any of those "promises" square with what has actually happened?
Why are you not more outraged than I am? You drank their kool-ade, and you apparently still have some appetite for more of it. On the ride home earlier, I asked my wife what she thought that southern baptists, since theri break from other American baptists, in 1845, have been right about? They believed that "the bible says", it is not a sin for one race to enslave another. Segregation was not a sin. Relegating women to a subservient role, of "submitting" to their husband, and demonizing homosexuals, is all in a day's work for these folks.
I'll put the question to you , Lebell, what have you been right about as far as the war in Iraq, and about Bush's and his congress's other policies and actions. Was the new $95 billion tax cut passed by the house last week, as the debt grows, Iraq festers, N.O. rots, Bush rants on endlessly about "staying the course", and Hastert pushes back the start of the "peoples' business" in the next congress by two weeks, next month, in an effort to accomodate the ambitions of one disgraced man, Delay, enough, even for you, to say enough is enough?
Evidently not....judging from your continued defense and obfuscation of the indefensible....the republican breach of contract with America.