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Old 12-10-2005, 03:32 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by thephuse
I dont really think losing Renteria is improving the team.. and altho it doesnt look like it now.. if they lose Manny.. their offense would be shot.. Atlho their staidum jsut helps them that much..

You bring up good points about Beckett and Burnett.. It'd be funny if the Yanks get Nomar... all three of the "big 3" SS's of the 90's. heh.. I think i remeber reading that that could happe n a few yrs back.. but didnt think it could...

I think the Yanks rotatin of Unit, Moose, Chacon, Pavano, Wang/Wright/Small is very dependable, altho two would have to move to the bullpen.. altho i hope wright and pavano could go.. prolly wang and small are gonna end up goin to the bullpen due to their salaries.. sigh..

Yanks' team is solid from last yr.. they needed an upgrade at CF.. but looks like there's little chance of upgrading now.. since if the yrs go down, Damon is a Redsox, and the Yanks wont give him his 7yrs he wants..
BTW Nomar's headed to Cleveland...... you can almost consider it a signed deal. 3 years for 15 mill with heavy incentives. He's going to be their 1B. Think the Tribe really got stupid with that but if he does a Millwood it's worth every penny.

Hey now Omar Vizquel was a bigtime SS in the 90's. We didn't need Nomar's or A-Rod's or Jeter's bat. Vizquel was a solid hitter who set the table. Plus his glove was unbeatable and won the Tribe many a game, I dare say more games probably than all 3 of those others bats won for their teams.

As for Yankee pitching it truly doesn't scare me. Johnson is old and his back is in bad shape.

Chacon couldn't even make it with the Rockies, I don't see him being that good, maybe a 5th starter for a desperate team, (unless you're Cincy and then he maybe a decent #3), I see Chacon's ERA over 5. Right now the Yanks have him as their #2, that's sad. Course I maybe totally wrong about the guy, maybe he is that good and it wasn't just a bump to the AL and the new team syndrome where when first traded you produce like a superstar but the next season you come to earth real fast.

Mussina, old his ERA and WHIP are climbing, last 1/3 of his games sucked sewer water, he's not scary. He's average at best, very hittable for the good offensive teams like the Angels, Indians, Rangers.... he needs to be traded and finish in an NL pitcher's park, he may have a good season or 2 left in him them.

Wang may have some talent and he's young, but the teams once they get to see him and what he has to offer, may end up teeing off on him.

Small, never a starter, at 34 on the older side to be trying, especially when he's only pitched 92.2 innings in the last 3 years, a career 4.9 ERA 1.57 WHIP and an opposition BA of .297. Not starter material. Says a lot about Yankee desperation that they would even consider him a SP.

Pavano got shelled last year and injured.... I don't see a very happy future for him. He isn't surrounded by Willis, Beckett, and Burnett. No strong pitching to tire the batters out for him. He didn't even make it into July, injured or not his opposing BA at .315 should tell you something. 4.77 ERA and a 1.47 WHIP.... naw he's Colorado material.

Jaret Wright had great potential when he came up through the Indians, but we destroyed his arm. 1 good year with Atl. and he was worth how much? A career ERA of 5.17, a WHIP at 1.55 and opposing BA at .276 and he topped those last season by having a 6.07 ERA, a WHIP of 1.77 and an opp. BA of .313? Very scary. His arm is spaghetti, to expect ANYTHING out of him is expecting too much.

Then looking at the Yankees roster, unless they make some seriously good moves..... I don't see it as all that fearsome.

Right now the Yankees look extremely beatable to me. I can see them finishing 3rd maybe 4th in the division. Toronto is scarier, Boston is far scarier, Baltimore if they get Dunn..... I just don't see it for the Yankees this year.

Unless they make power moves.... and they have no farm system to trade prospects out of, they have overpaid each and every player, so they can't really trade the players unless they eat a hell of a lot of salary.... no they self destructed. And I heard (but have looked and can't confirm it) the Yankees lost between $50 - 80 million..... not good, they are in no position to eat salary.
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