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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
pan, your question as stated cannot be answered. you want an explanation of the current system yet are looking for reasons to oppose socialized medicine. What do you think we have right now? we have socialized medicine.
do I defend the current system? hell no. its atrocious.
how do we fix it? abolish the health insurance industry.
it is the health insurance industry, hell its the insurance industry period, that is causing the problem. It's also how we have socialized medicine. and socialized disaster insurance, auto insurance, anything with insurance.
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You and Samcol do make good points and show the system we have now does not work, will not work and cannot work long term or in the face of a true crisis.
When a NEED for the people is run solely for profit and they make that need so expensive that people cannot afford it, then you have to change the system.
I have never said I wanted free healthcare, I firmly believe in a sliding scale system.
One of the most serious problems facing the healthcare industry is insurance companies wanting to fight what they pay.
If you go to the wrong hospital, if you see a specialist before you have been approved, if they deem the surgery you need is "experimental" or unneeded yet the doctor knows you need it..... they won't pay, or they'll pay far less and you pay far more.
I am pointing out a fatal flaw in the system, if there's this great pandemic, we're going to say it's okay for the government to pay for people's healthcare then?
So in special circumstances it's ok, but otherwise no?
Who defines these special circumstances? The healthcare industry? the insurance companies? President Bush?
I have shown we are behind in infant mortality, we are behind in the amount of doctors, we are behind the rest of the world (countries that do have Universal healthcare) in many major aspects.
Surely, a country that wants to claim to be the best can do better, can't we?
Or are we so run by our own greed as a whole that we won't care until it affects us personally?
I'm sorry, I don't like the answers and no it has nothing to do with "my" case. My case opened my eyes to how bad the system really is. I expect noone to pay for my healthcare, but in reality those who are insured and tax dollars will be going to pay for it.
I just think we can have a better system.