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Originally Posted by longbough
these posts arent' the best source of information. The most informed people don't necessarily post here. You get a mixed quality of opinions and information/disinformation
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The internet is bursting at the seams with pro gun information, just google it and you'll see. That's where a great deal of the figures and facts in this forum come from.
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Originally Posted by longbough
Despite what some media commentators have claimed, existing gun laws apply just as much to gun shows as they do to any other place where guns are sold. Since 1938, persons selling firearms have been required to obtain a federal firearms license. If a dealer sells a gun from a storefront, from a room in his home or from a table at a gun show, the rules are exactly the same: he can get authorization from the FBI for the sale only after the FBI runs its "instant" background check (which often takes days to complete). As a result, firearms are the most severely regulated consumer product in the United States -- the only product for which FBI permission is required for every single sale.
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Where do criminals get their guns? Does this gun ban effect that source, at the very least within city limits? If so, why is this such a bad thing? If criminals are less likely to have a gun, guns become less necessary in the home for protection.
[QUOTE=longboughThe buzzword "gun show loophole" is a myth. If you have a problem with the private sale of firearms that's a different issue. But those who refer to "gun show loophole" only demonstrate that their sources of information need to be reconsidered.[/QUOTE]
If we (those not so keen on guns) need to be educated about something, let me request that you educate us. What are the rules and laws surrounding gun shows? Where did this misconception of a loophole come from? Is it easier to get a gun at a gun show?
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Originally Posted by longbough
I am neither a collector nor a hunter. And I do consider the gun as a tool - it is a tool I have trained to use to protect my life and the life of my family should that need arise. It's sad that you view someone like myself as a danger to society.
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I know you are almost certianally not a danger to society, and I suspect that Charlatan agrees. There are people out there that are dangers to themselves and others, and they are the focus of our fears and aprehenshions.
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Originally Posted by longbough
I have many friends in law enforcement and, believe it or not, the majority of LEOs I am aware of (and certainly ALL the LEOs I have known) support the private ownership of firearms for self protection. Furthermore they make it clear that the duty of police officers is not to prevent crime - and that if your house is being invaded they're unlikely to be around to save you.
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Protection has to begin at prevention (not that I'm telling you how to do your job, just in general). If for example, you get a tip from a reliable source that a large consignment of cocaine is being transported up the coast in a boat, you try to stop the boat, that way the drugs never get to the people they would hurt. Isn't that the ideal solution? Much the same, wouldn't you want to make sure that criminals can't get guns (outside of the gun ban argument, let's say better gun control, things like better tracking and such)? If you were able to keep the guns from being distributed to 'bad' people, then wouldn't that be ideal?
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Originally Posted by longbough
I won't try to convince you that you'd be safer if you had a gun - but that's your decision, not mine.
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I've never had my house broken into. I've had my car broken into a few times, but nothing serious. I don't fear criminals to the point where I'd try to fight back, espically with guns. If someone were to break into my housre, I'd probably confront them and offer to give them cash. Why? Because a criminal is likely someone who is desperate and ahs been drivin to doing something that most consider wrong. The average criminal is not a carreer criminal, as far as I know.
Edit: thank you for being an excelnt advocate. Your civility is refreshing. Also, welcome the the discussion, Charlaton.