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longbough · 12-06-2005, 11:52 AM

hey, that's ok.

A lot of shooters I know and respect hate Glocks. I used to hate them too. First time I saw the Glock in the 80s I thought it was the ugliest chunk of mass manufactured equipment I ever saw.

Here's my experience with the Glock (forgive my many digressions)

Several years ago I took my first 4 day defensive handgun course at Fronsite Academy in Nevada (unfortunately right after Chuck Taylor stopped instructing there). My buddy advised me not to take my BHP (my favorite gun at the time) and let me use his brand new Glock 23 - not even fired once (now THAT'S a real friend). In my class of about 30 students I noticed that the most common handguns were 1911s and Glocks. There were a few HKs and BHPs and SIGs as well but the Glock & 1911 were in the majority. The large Glock representation shouldn't have surprised me, though, since many of the students were SWAT and other LEOs using their duty guns.

Right out of the box the Glock 23 shot consistently. I didn't have a single malfunction (no doublefeeds, stovepipes etc...). For 4 days we were hot on the range from 7am to 8pm at night with drills, Hogan's Alley, building sweep scenarios, night shoots with Rogers and Harries techniques etc. The guns were racked hard, thrown in the dirt, magazines were discarded and tossed onto the ground repeatedly for emergency reload and malfunction drills. Did I mention we were shooting all the time?

I noticed the occasional malfunction on the range - the only bad one I recall was with someone's ported SS BHP.

(As an aside: I recall one fella with his HK P7 was sheepish about letting his "precious" magazines drop free to the ground. He was taken aside and was made to realize that he ought to get used to understanding his gun (as pretty as it might be) is a simple tool and you ought to know its function and limits if you're going to depend on it.)

Since then I have taken more courses. The proportion of Glocks and 1911s is even greater in the advanced courses. I purchased my own Glock 23 and did my next 4 day course with it - completely stock and fresh out of the box, too.

I have to trust the weapon since my experience with the Glock has only been positive - and I've abused the heck out of it. I still think it's an ugly gun (and it's even uglier after all the abuse - but, of course, I keep the intertals clean and lubed) but, damn, it works well under stress.

My buddy was working on his Handgun Master Certification with his Glock 22 (you should see this guy shoot - he's like a damn robot). He's had to replace his sights twice already because they've been worn down through repeated presentations. He's the guy I mentioned with the Jardine full house custom 1911 - he's a madman with that gun, too.

Bottom line is that I like the gun...

the 1911 is another story ... another great weapon

12-06-2005, 11:52 AM	#16 (permalink)
longbough Soylent Green is people. Location: Northern California	hey, that's ok. A lot of shooters I know and respect hate Glocks. I used to hate them too. First time I saw the Glock in the 80s I thought it was the ugliest chunk of mass manufactured equipment I ever saw. Here's my experience with the Glock (forgive my many digressions) Several years ago I took my first 4 day defensive handgun course at Fronsite Academy in Nevada (unfortunately right after Chuck Taylor stopped instructing there). My buddy advised me not to take my BHP (my favorite gun at the time) and let me use his brand new Glock 23 - not even fired once (now THAT'S a real friend). In my class of about 30 students I noticed that the most common handguns were 1911s and Glocks. There were a few HKs and BHPs and SIGs as well but the Glock & 1911 were in the majority. The large Glock representation shouldn't have surprised me, though, since many of the students were SWAT and other LEOs using their duty guns. Right out of the box the Glock 23 shot consistently. I didn't have a single malfunction (no doublefeeds, stovepipes etc...). For 4 days we were hot on the range from 7am to 8pm at night with drills, Hogan's Alley, building sweep scenarios, night shoots with Rogers and Harries techniques etc. The guns were racked hard, thrown in the dirt, magazines were discarded and tossed onto the ground repeatedly for emergency reload and malfunction drills. Did I mention we were shooting all the time? I noticed the occasional malfunction on the range - the only bad one I recall was with someone's ported SS BHP. (As an aside: I recall one fella with his HK P7 was sheepish about letting his "precious" magazines drop free to the ground. He was taken aside and was made to realize that he ought to get used to understanding his gun (as pretty as it might be) is a simple tool and you ought to know its function and limits if you're going to depend on it.) Since then I have taken more courses. The proportion of Glocks and 1911s is even greater in the advanced courses. I purchased my own Glock 23 and did my next 4 day course with it - completely stock and fresh out of the box, too. I have to trust the weapon since my experience with the Glock has only been positive - and I've abused the heck out of it. I still think it's an ugly gun (and it's even uglier after all the abuse - but, of course, I keep the intertals clean and lubed) but, damn, it works well under stress. My buddy was working on his Handgun Master Certification with his Glock 22 (you should see this guy shoot - he's like a damn robot). He's had to replace his sights twice already because they've been worn down through repeated presentations. He's the guy I mentioned with the Jardine full house custom 1911 - he's a madman with that gun, too. Bottom line is that I like the gun... the 1911 is another story ... another great weapon Last edited by longbough; 12-06-2005 at 12:01 PM..