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Old 12-06-2005, 10:52 AM   #27 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by scout
OHHH I see, and Mr. Bush hasn't been hounded ceaselessly by the Liberal wing of the Democratic party? Perhaps that's why Mr. Bush has had a few problems achieving his agenda this second term? Equally, the blame must be placed at the Democrats feet for not working with Mr. Bush.
Thank you for playing but wrong answer. Last time I checked Bush had a GOP majority in BOTH houses. Something Clinton has in only 2 of his 8 years.

So what if Bush is hounded, if he was strong enough, his policies good enough and his party truly believed in him, his whole platform would be rubber stamped.

You cannot even come close to comparing the hounding Bush gets to what Clinton got.

Does Bush have an independant counselor looking into every single move he's ever made? NO...... maybe a Micheal Moore, but that's not official and if he can't get his policies passed because of him, that says more about Mr. Bush than it does MM and whatever he spins.

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No damn wonder nothing ever gets accomplished in Washington, so much bickering and placing the blame on the other party neither side can get anything done. Noone wants to work with the other side anymore to help anyone out but themselves. BOTH parties are equally guilty of this.

And... I must remind you once again, the Democrats had a slight majority in the House and also the Senate I believe {if memory serves me right, it's early and I don't have time to look it up} but at the very least in the House until they passed the AWB in '94. They have continually lost seats since then. Wonder why?
On 1 hand you are complaining about the bickering and partisanship, saying nothing gets done. Then the very next paragraph you try to shred the Dem party to pieces. You seemingly want to blame the Dems. for everything. That is your right.

You are right about the partisanship, but then your next paragraph shows one reason why it is rampant, BLAME. Don't like something blame the other guys for it. Same with the Dems now with Iraq. Some voted for it (hack cough.... not 1 Ohio Dem Rep. voted for it.) Same with the AWB, some GOP voted for it. But ignore that, just focus on the majority party, which is natural, but it also adds very much to the partisanship and division.

Ok...... well in 1994 the Dems had both houses and the Presidency. But then the GOP came out with "Contract for America" it was going to set term limits on the GOP reps. and Senators, they were going to be more responsive to the people.... yada yada yada.....

They won on that. Guess what? A MAJORITY of those who ran on that platform and signed it are still in office, where is their loyalty and honesty about term limits, answering to the people, and so on?

OK, so the AWB was passed, Bush could have changed it and I believe he did...... so why bitch about it now? WTF why keep rehashing the past, when things have been changed back to the way, I assume, you like?

You also did a nice job of changing the subject of this thread and not allowing the RR policy debate go further. You could have very easily made this particular opinion a new thread. Pretty effective, pretty sly.
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