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Originally Posted by Chilek9
Why would he call them illegal if they weren't? Because he's trying to inflame the situation in his party's favor. It happens all the time. Everything I have seen indicates that the court system cannot reach beyond the borders of the U.S. to cover a person who is not a U.S. citizen. The jurisdiction of the U.S. does not go outside our borders which is why children born to U.S. citizens have VERY specific rules about how they can or cannot derive their citizenship from their parents. In other words, if the CIA wants to operate a "black site" there is nothing in law to stop them, AS LONG AS they don't engage in the practice of torture, as defined by the United States Code.
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if the jurisdiction does not reach beyond our borders, then explain extraordinary rendition. If there is a legal precedent to operate 'black sites' then there must be documentation. The executive branch is not an autonomous organization and MUST have oversight from congress. I'm simply not understanding why, if these are legal, that those in the government refuse to confirm or deny their existence. The only reasonable deduction would be that they are illegal, or at least a gray area, and would only serve to outrage the american people in to a backlash against the government.
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