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Old 12-05-2005, 07:56 PM   #54 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by cj2112
So are you saying that if I were in SF on my way to the range to shoot my handgun, and i get pulled over, I should be arrested?
If that's how the people voted. Personally, I don't care, never have about gun issues (except semi-autos and autos).

But I also think if you have it in your trunk and therefore not possibly within reach that's a different story.

You may not like it, I may not like some laws local governments make, but if it's that important to me I can move.

A couple questions I would have to ask you about your scenario is, if SF bans handguns then wouldn't it follow they wuldn't have any gun ranges?

As pointed out earlier if the community banned gay marriage would you approve the majority's decision there? SO what's more special about your rights as opposed to someone else's?

If you are driving down the road obeying the laws, then why would you be pulled over to begin with? And if your gun is in your trunk and 100% out of reach why would you be concerned?

Do you live in SF if not then why are you pissed over what a majority wants in a community YOU do not live in?

That's one of the huge issues, people (esp. NRA buffs) claim they want less federal government or government period, but yet when a community's majority votes for something, those people begging for less Fed interference are the first to demand Fed involvement. And in most cases they don't even live in that community, have very little support until they pump money and fear into it, and threaten lawsuits that the community cannot pay for.

So groups like these who supposedly stand for the rights of the people, say FUCK YOU VOTERS OF WHEREVER, WE SAY WHAT YOU CAN DO.

And yes, both left and right have groups doing the same thing and it is extremely wrong, the voters voices should be respected (so long as they are not prejudicial against race, religion, sex, etc.). The community doesn't want guns, then they should be allowed to decide that, they vote they don't want public smoking so be it (that would personally affect me, and I don't like that but if the majority says no, the people have spoken.)

Let the states and communities govern themselves, let the will of the people who live in the communities vote for what they believe they need. Noone in NC should be yelping about SF voting for something that doesn't affect them.

Same with abortion, gay rights, whatever, the communities should be able to decide what best suits them.

The second you demand Fed. interference you take rights away from not just that community but EVERY community. Then you complain the Fed has too much power..... so which do you want? More interference or communities to be able to vote for what they believe is best for them?
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